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May 19, 2023 8:59 AM CST
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Is this a dahlia? It was a warm winter for sure (record low amount of snow in Central Park) and this sure looks like a dahlia.
I pulled most of mine hoping to overwinter the tubers (let's not discuss how that went), but I think I left one or two in the ground to see how they did.
Leaving them in the ground over the winter would be a gamechanger/moneysaver for me!
Thanks for any answers/advice.


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May 19, 2023 9:04 AM CST
Name: Arlene
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May 20, 2023 10:24 AM CST
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That does look like it could be Dahlia.

The trick for survival for the Z8 plants (plants with Z8 as their lowest reliable survival zone) is to prevent ground freeze. If you do that, the actual weather doesn't matter. Called zone-cheating, zone-pushing, exploiting a microclimate. There are a LOT of individual tactics that can be used to try to accomplish this.

In Z7 and below, the ground freezes. In Z8 the ground does not freeze. Not a guaranteed pattern every winter, but something we can use to cheat higher zone plants in lower zone places. This is the most dramatic dividing line between temperate zones, IMVHO. Once a plant requires Z9+, it's not going to live through frequent frosts that go on for 2-3 months, and a spell of nights cold enough to make the dog's water bowl turn to ice, even if that's not enough to freeze the ground. Winter here usually has at least 1 of those spells. So it's much easier for you to use Z8 plants than it is for me to try Z9 plants. Look for other Z8 plants if you've discovered a microclimate &/or want to experiment with zone-cheat techniques.
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May 20, 2023 1:58 PM CST
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On rare occasion I have had them come back in zone 6a. They were planted right up against the foundation , which I guess kept them warm enough.
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May 20, 2023 5:10 PM CST
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Slab foundation = great. Basement wall = ooh la la!
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Jun 22, 2023 4:36 PM CST

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Fred, I had one dahlia come up this spring too! I had planted it on a slope with a sandy/compost mix and quite deeply (prob. at least 8-10" deep), last year. I didn't really care for it, so I left in...but now I have to see how long it can keep this going! My guess is the depth + the great drainage helped over winter. Def. a game changer!
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Oct 24, 2023 9:40 AM CST
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I have occasional dahlias overwinter too in 6b but I wouldn't depend on that. My brother has one dahlia that is next to the foundation wall and the cement stair foundation and that dahlia has been living for over 10-15 years.

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