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Jun 8, 2023 9:30 AM CST
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ndmpkt13 said: I was cleaning out the garage today and found an Autumn Apple chick charm tag. On the back I noticed it said 'Dakona'. Is this a typo?
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Junglefreak said: In the Cyrillic alphabet the handwritten small "t" is similar to m, and depending on the writing stile may appear as the Latin "n", if the middle stroke is smaller than intended. I think the true identity of this cultivar is 'Dakota' (M. Haberer, 1979)


Let us see if we can get to the bottom of this. Anyone with 'Dakona' or 'Dakota', please post a current photo of your semps. Please tag it with the name you bought it as. A photo from this week, please.
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Jun 8, 2023 1:42 PM CST
Name: Nathaniel
MN (Zone 5a)
I've seen this debate recently on Facebook. I know there is a Russian hybridizer. I feel like this is similar to trying to name a noid based on appearance. There have been thousands of these plants sold, and I'm not sure we will ever be able to 100% for sure. Does anyone have both of them? I would think that would be best for comparison. I would say the best option is to maintain them separately especially since that's how Chris originally received the plant. If other want to assume they are the same, I would think that would fall to them.
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Jun 8, 2023 1:59 PM CST
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Thank you Nathaniel.
I was thinking if we got photos from those with 'Dakota' taken this week and 'Dakona' it would be an easier thing to see if there is a difference in them at this time of the year.
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Jun 8, 2023 3:12 PM CST
Name: Nathaniel
MN (Zone 5a)
That makes sense. I'll grab a picture of my Dakona (Autumn Apple) this evening. I lost my Dakota over the winter to rabbits.
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Jun 8, 2023 4:30 PM CST
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Thank you Nathaniel.
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Jun 8, 2023 7:41 PM CST
Name: Nathaniel
MN (Zone 5a)
Here is my Autumn Apple. I grabbed a picture of a couple rossettes.


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Jun 9, 2023 9:51 AM CST
Name: Sharen
Hollidaysburg PA (Zone 6b)
I have both.
Both are in about the same soil mix and sunlight level.

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Jun 9, 2023 10:25 AM CST
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Sharen, great reference photo. Thank you so much. Thumbs up
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Aug 29, 2023 7:06 PM CST
Name: Nathaniel
MN (Zone 5a)
I just got Dakota from Julia. I'll get it a month or so to adjust then I'll let you know what they look like then.
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Aug 29, 2023 7:53 PM CST
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Thank you Nathaniel. This all gets so confusing when names possibly get mixed up.
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