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Jun 24, 2023 2:13 PM CST
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This overgrew the plastic pot it came in. No ID tag or sticker. Just repotted. Any thoughts are much appreciated.

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Jun 24, 2023 3:11 PM CST
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I really like the way you set that plant up. It looks fabulous with the pot and the top dressing.

I am going to guess xGasteraloe, possibly a hybrid of Aristaloe. Not a cultivar that I recognize, and I could be wrong. Pink flowers, probably prolific (with time).
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Jun 24, 2023 3:32 PM CST
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Thanks.

I'm a succulent novice. I try to get interesting things I can use as pots. I use hole saw bits on my drill and they require water as you drill.

The top dressing is the only thing I can find near me... Crushed granite sold as chicken grit at Tractor Supply stores. I like the purplish color of the granite though.

I don't remember where I got the plant originally. No tag though. I think it got sunburned last year so I didn't repot. I thought it might die. It seems to have come through. But in my attempt to do mass-repotting, a freak storm cell opened up a few days ago and soaked everything. The soil held water for days so against my better judgement, I decided to repot today as we have more storms coming tomorrow. After knocking off soil. I dusted the roots with dry succulent mix to wick off as much moisture before repotting. Fingers crossed that damage wasn't done. A larger one had already turned to jelly in the center.
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Jun 24, 2023 3:40 PM CST
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And flowering would be fantastic. I like succulents but my zeal increased A LOT when I saw hummingbird interest. Not that they weren't already interesting... Just icing on the cake.
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Jun 24, 2023 4:01 PM CST
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Duplicate post. Sorry.
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Jun 25, 2023 5:14 AM CST
Name: Steve
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I agree with baja its a gasteraloe but not one I recognise. 👍 there are a lot of cv's though so maybe search for gasteraloe and you may come across it, if not it's a hybrid
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Jun 25, 2023 12:17 PM CST
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I am wondering if this is the same.
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Mine is budding. If it is the same, I will happily update this.
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Jun 25, 2023 1:15 PM CST
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Either way, I would be curious to see flower pictures of both plants.
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Jun 26, 2023 1:16 AM CST
Name: Steve
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@Ursula
I think yours and @urbanwild plants are different in terms of both leaf form and number of white spots (bumps ) on each leaf. Your plant looks like gasteraloe cv 'Apollo' pic below . Aloe Arista seems to figure on the genetics of both plants . It's such a common and hardy aloe and they hybridize so freely that there must be hundreds of crosses around . I think urbanwilds plant looks like Arista or a close hybrid like yours , crossed with a thinner and less spotty aloe 😀 flowers may give more indications but certainty in the world of aloes in cultivation is always a bit of a guessing game unless the plant is very typical of a species or named cv
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Jun 26, 2023 6:43 AM CST
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Thanks so much Steve! Thumbs up
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Jul 3, 2023 8:57 AM CST
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UrbanWild said: This overgrew the plastic pot it came in. No ID tag or sticker. Just repotted. Any thoughts are much appreciated.

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The pot looks beautiful, is it a petrified wood? Blinking
If they look healthy, do nothing
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Jul 3, 2023 1:51 PM CST
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No... Some sort of ceramic but feels like it may have a little resin in it. It's really odd. I got it cheap and drilled a good sized drainage hole in it. I usually have to drill holes in about 80% of the pots I get.
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Jul 6, 2023 12:00 PM CST
Name: Ursula
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Baja_Costero said: Either way, I would be curious to see flower pictures of both plants.


Mine now started to open its buds!

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Jul 6, 2023 12:24 PM CST
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Would you say that is 'pinkish green'? Those that @busterdude posted in the 'Show Your Aloes' thread look the same 'pinkish green' to me.
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Jul 6, 2023 12:50 PM CST
Name: Ursula
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Yes, I initially thought so, but now I looked at his again and I think his are a touch greener than mine. I thought that may have something to do with different exposures to light. Mine is outside in sunshine with only a light screen over that portion of the deck ( Window screen material).
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Jul 6, 2023 1:00 PM CST
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I would describe them as pink at the base and greenish white above that point, but either way I believe the essence comes across.

That other photo can be found here, for the curious:

https://garden.org/thread/view...

One interesting detail about Aristaloe (the presumed parent of these plants) is that the flowers seem to be different colors depending on the exposure. This is not exclusive to Aristaloe, it seems to be true for various related plants. In the sun they are a sort of solid orangey pink color, but in the shade they may have much more white (or greenish white) in them, not necessarily evenly distributed.

These two pictures match the way the flowers appear in the Definitive Guide




Tiffany's plant in the second picture is clearly getting a lot of light, based on the tight, compact rosettes, and mine in the first is in full sun. Compare to these flowers presumably growing in lower light




Now this sort of complicates things with the xGasteraloe hybrids of the species. Because Gasteria flowers are typically pink at the base and greenish white near the tips. Lots of good examples on this page

Ox-Tongue (Gasteria)

like the main image for that entry



In general, I would imagine that xGasteraloe flowers would be intermediate between the two parental genera. For the Aristaloe hybrids, that would mean whitish tips, with pink bases. But depending on the light, the Aristaloe flowers may have that same pattern. Other things like the shape of the flower and the shape of the raceme (collected flowers stacked at the end of an inflorescence) might be more informative about differences there and the actual parentage involved.
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Oct 5, 2023 8:13 AM CST
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Baja_Costero said: I really like the way you set that plant up. It looks fabulous with the pot and the top dressing.

I am going to guess xGasteraloe, possibly a hybrid of Aristaloe. Not a cultivar that I recognize, and I could be wrong. Pink flowers, probably prolific (with time).


This was a reply to this post:

https://garden.org/thread/view...

It has now been in flower a couple of weeks... First a single spike. Then branches. Here are some photos...

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Oct 7, 2023 1:48 PM CST
Name: Steve
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you can see the gasteria influence so clearly on those flowers. Probably get nectar drops as well Thumbs up
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