Post a reply

Avatar for SmokeyMountain
Jul 10, 2023 2:30 PM CST
Thread OP
Eastern Tennessee
I participated in No Mow May and June, and now July. I didn't get many wildflowers but I love the look of the long grass flowing in the wind. Now, there are some large weeds starting to grow. When, and how, should I cut my field back down? If I cut it now, I will invariably stress it by cutting more than 1/3 of its height. And, can I then let it go another several months to have the same look in the fall? How do I encourage wildflowers and limit the less attractive weeds that tend to want to overtake the landscape?
Image
Jul 10, 2023 2:56 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
Forum moderator Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 1
Welcome to the site!

Pics may help.
As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
Image
Jul 10, 2023 4:20 PM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
Bee Lover Salvias Region: New Mexico Herbs Container Gardener Composter
Cat Lover Butterflies Bookworm Birds Enjoys or suffers hot summers
If the size of your new meadow allows, be absolutely religious about pulling the undesirable weeds before they go to seed. Opposite approach with desirables.
Avatar for SmokeyMountain
Jul 10, 2023 6:01 PM CST
Thread OP
Eastern Tennessee
Thumb of 2023-07-11/SmokeyMountain/5e8061
Image
Jul 10, 2023 6:20 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
Forum moderator Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 1
Beautiful area and view!
As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
Image
Jul 10, 2023 6:29 PM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
Bee Lover Salvias Region: New Mexico Herbs Container Gardener Composter
Cat Lover Butterflies Bookworm Birds Enjoys or suffers hot summers
S o o o o handpulling weeds perhaps not an option... Hilarious!

Understandable chair placement. Overlooking heaven. 💚
Image
Jul 13, 2023 7:51 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier
Gorgeous pic.
The question is why would anyone ever think that should be mowed...

You should take individual pics of the plants that you are calling weeds.

I've seen people rip out native flowers that once gone are gone forever...

We need to identify the plants that are bothering you... Many of the so-called "weeds" don't produce seed until late in the season, giving a very long window to pull for the compost pile... And... many of those plants have wildlife value.

To answer the original question...
Wildflower meadows are generally cut in the early Spring, before the plants have begun to grow.

Many of our wildflowers are autumn flowering, and we need to allow them to get mature enough for that... Plus all those seedheads provide food for the songbirds through the winter.
Last edited by stone Jul 13, 2023 7:55 AM Icon for preview
Avatar for SmokeyMountain
Jul 22, 2023 12:18 PM CST
Thread OP
Eastern Tennessee
Ok, so what do I do with these "weeds"?
Leave them? Pull them (hope not)? Cut the meadow down?

Thumb of 2023-07-22/SmokeyMountain/2de757

Thumb of 2023-07-22/SmokeyMountain/c478c1

Thumb of 2023-07-22/SmokeyMountain/27353d

Thumb of 2023-07-22/SmokeyMountain/f35abd

Thumb of 2023-07-22/SmokeyMountain/f103d0
Image
Jul 23, 2023 5:59 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier
Looks like verbesina and milkweed to me...
Keepers!

Here's a post with verbesina blooms and monarch caterpillars... plus other butterflies, caterpillars and flowers...
https://gardens-in-the-sand.bl...

Of course, most of us know verbesina as "frost flowers"...

Thumb of 2023-07-23/stone/9e8147

Thread on these forums... more info on frost flowers:
The thread "Frostweed Effect" in Gardening for Butterflies, Birds and Bees forum
Last edited by stone Jul 23, 2023 6:06 AM Icon for preview
Avatar for SmokeyMountain
Jul 23, 2023 11:43 AM CST
Thread OP
Eastern Tennessee
Yep, I think you nailed it. Thank you.
Stickweed and milkweed.
So, leave them I guess and mow the field down in the late fall or the spring?
Image
Jul 24, 2023 6:37 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier
I suggest waiting for the end of winter.
At my house, the songbirds eat the verbesina seeds after they mature.
I had to search "stickweed"... I don't usually see that term in relation to verbesina... "wingstem" is more commonly used.

The link (I posted) above did not show common milkweed which you have...
Here's common milkweed with tree frog!
Thumb of 2023-07-24/stone/9452e2
Avatar for porkpal
Jul 24, 2023 7:00 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
Cat Lover Charter ATP Member Keeper of Poultry I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Keeps Horses
Roses Plant Identifier Farmer Raises cows Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
Love the frog!
Image
Jul 24, 2023 7:28 AM CST
Name: CyndiK
New to Virginia (Zone 7b)
So what specific plants should be pulled out?
Image
Jul 24, 2023 7:56 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier
I tend to pull ragweed on sight (hay fever).
I pull horse nettle when I see it (prickers)
I pull nandina when I see it (invasive, kills birds)

Cocklebur would be a good one to pull...

We haven't determined that you have anything that needs to be pulled... Let's concentrate on identifying what you have growing...

Maybe you won't need to worry about pulling anything.
Last edited by stone Jul 24, 2023 7:58 AM Icon for preview
Image
Jul 27, 2023 9:52 AM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
See you in the funny papers!
Charter ATP Member Frogs and Toads Houseplants Keeper of Poultry Vegetable Grower Region: Maryland
Composter Native Plants and Wildflowers Organic Gardener Region: United States of America Cat Lover Birds
A dream view!! Love it.
Late winter sounds good.
Nature center near here, at one time, was doing a four year rotation on a field, only mowing one third each year.
You might keep a path going though, thru the patts not mowed annually.
Plant it and they will come.
Image
Sep 7, 2023 4:01 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
Region: United States of America Houseplants Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Garden Sages Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
Organic Gardener Composter Miniature Gardening Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Tender Perennials Butterflies
That is beautiful! Keep researching/adding nectar plants and butterfly host plants, plants that make seeds that birds like to eat. Year after year, you'll have more butterflies and birds in your yard.

Baby trees are what you would want to pull, or eventually the meadow will be a wooded area. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but that would be the reason you would pull baby trees - if you're trying to keep it a meadow. Annual mowing alone won't kill many saplings, they'll just continue to grow as pollarded entities.

Sally, one of my BIL's does that - a mowed path through his blueberry meadow in ME. When were up there in July, it was great to walk along that path. IDK if the path is in the same spot every year. Probably not.
The golden rule: Do to others only that which you would have done to you.
👀😁😂 - SMILE! -☺😎☻☮👌✌∞☯
The only way to succeed is to try!
🐣🐦🐔🍯🐾🌺🌻🌸🌼🌹
The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The 2nd best time is now. (-Unknown)
👒🎄👣🏡🍃🍂🌾🌿🍁❦❧🍁🍂🌽❀☀ ☕👓🐝
Try to be more valuable than a bad example.
You must first create a username and login before you can reply to this thread.
Member Login:

( No account? Join now! )