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Aug 3, 2023 10:30 AM CST
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Hi.....I can't find info on when and how to remove the pups growing on my agave's flower stalk. It has no pups at the base.....just 1000's on the stalk. Any input would be appreciated.....thanks !
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Aug 3, 2023 11:41 AM CST
Name: Rj
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Moving your question to the Cactus and Succulent Forum.
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Aug 3, 2023 6:31 PM CST
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Those baby plants are called bulbils and they can be used to start new, independent plants. I have no experience with this species but I will offer some general pointers based on my experience with others. I welcome anyone else who has experience with this species (or any other agave bulbils) to speak up.

Usually it's best to wait until after flowering is complete (ie. the top-most flowers on the stalk are done) before harvesting bulbils. They will get bigger and bigger on the stalk (though not by a whole lot, given the numbers) and so you benefit from waiting a bit before you grab them. Bigger to start with is better, because it gives them a bigger reservoir of water and nutrients to subsist on until they can grow roots and obtain water/nutrients for themselves.

With some plants there is a sort of auto-release mechanism. If you shake the stalk, bulbils will fly off when they are ready. You can try this when they look ready, otherwise just separate them carefully and pot them up to grow roots. This process will take weeks to months.

If you are harvesting dozens, start with a nursery flat or some other wide, shallow container. If you are potting them up individually, don't go crazy with big pots at the very beginning. They will tend to look sadder and sadder as they dehydrate, and then visibly turn the corner when they have roots and can take up water again. Use containers with holes and soil with good drainage (like 50% pumice/perlite/gritty equivalent). Water like you would any other potted agave, ie. watering well when the soil has gone dry or almost dry at depth. Provide strong light but maybe avoid direct overhead sun while the bulbils are small and rootless. Once they have roots and look rehydrated, you can freely pot them up into a bigger size.

Hope this helps. This method should be relatively reliable (maybe not 100%, but you have no shortage of bulbils to experiment with). However, you have to be patient while they root.
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Aug 3, 2023 7:22 PM CST
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Thank you ! That all makes sense and I will wait a bit to do any harvesting
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Aug 3, 2023 7:44 PM CST
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Hi & welcome!

That is really cool! It seems like it's designed so that when the stalk falls over, a row of new plants can start growing from that. I can understand wanting to do it manually in a more orderly way. I have no advice, but wonder if they'll make aerial roots and be easy to just snap off, ready to go? Best luck!

It still seems weird to me that the term bulbil applies to non-bulb plants.
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Aug 3, 2023 9:47 PM CST
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My botanical reference to the Crassulaceae uses the word bulbil with Kalanchoe (among various others) so I think it has come to refer to various types of vegetative outgrowths (specifically plantlets that fall and root and clonally reproduce the mother plant), whether bulb-shaped or not, from the axils on an inflorescence (as on agaves or aloes) or from the margins of leaves (as on some Kalanchoes) or wherever.
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Aug 3, 2023 10:18 PM CST
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I usually pick and plant them when the bottom is about the size of a ping-pong ball. Smaller ones work too but take longer to root.
When the stalk finally gives way under the weight of the bulbils, it's more of an explosion. By that time they are just barely hanging on and when the stalk hits the ground they all pop off at the same time and go flying. Sometimes 15 or 20 feet.
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Aug 5, 2023 10:40 AM CST
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Thank you again, Baja. I'm not doubting it, you have shared that info before. I guess I can't get used to it but will try to stop commenting about it. LOL!

That is cool, John! A better and much more interesting description of what I was imagining would happen.
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Aug 5, 2023 8:20 PM CST
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For no other reason other than clarification. The picture of bulbils on an Agave should give everyone the same understanding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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Aug 5, 2023 11:12 PM CST
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Tiffany, it's fairly safe to watch vilmoriniana "explode" but not something you want to be near when angustifolia or demeesteriana goes "boom". ๐Ÿ˜ฑ
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Aug 6, 2023 7:45 AM CST
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Thank you, John. ; )
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