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Oct 8, 2023 5:56 PM CST
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Agave Cold Tolerance chart... Thoughts?

If true, it looks like I might be able to get away with a couple in ground... But it's still probably too wet here for them.

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Oct 8, 2023 7:17 PM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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UrbanWild said: Agave Cold Tolerance chart... Thoughts?

If true, it looks like I might be able to get away with a couple in ground... But it's still probably too wet here for them.

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Maybe determine a variety that's cold hardy for your zone and if you have a slope plant it on that so it drains well. Or maybe construct a raised bed with relatively quick draining soil. I drove by an enormous agave in a neighboring town which was planted in one of those nursery containers that are used for saplings. A person couldn't get near the container except by crawling in their belly because the agave has grown really large. It's clearly been in place for a few years because some woody trash plants are beginning to grow up around the container. Wish the one I have could take the cold winter here, but I have to move it into protection.
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Oct 8, 2023 7:28 PM CST
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Zone 6b is -5 to 0 degrees F, right? Very short list of plants that cold tolerant. I can't speak for the accuracy of the list in the link, but anything remotely approaching the limits of an agave in that range will require the plant be kept dry, pretty much. No experience with cold here, but we do have a thread from someone who had good results in a warmer (but still cold for agaves) climate. Maybe check it out.

The thread "Agave survival in the Pacific Northwest" in Cactus and Succulents forum
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Oct 9, 2023 8:32 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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The cold tolerance chart is interesting. Even for my zone 8a, I think the only really good candidates would be those agaves with cold tolerances below 0F. A few years ago, those with a cold tolerance of 0-5F would be fairly safe bets. Not so sure now since in the last 5 years records have been set and the temps have fallen below zeroF. Last winter, which was pretty mild for the most part, had 36 hours that stayed below 0F. The plumbing companies were happy, I guess.

Historically we haven't seen temps that cold and even single digit F temps are not common. There are agaves that live here. I have one growing at the hunter's camp in the pasture. Something chews on it all the time, so it's very unattractive. I have tried unsuccessfully to move offsets (it pups aggressively) here at the house, but the soil is very different from that in the river bottom where the camp is. I see established agaves driving around, but some of those were clearly badly damaged by the cold spells. Some really large, established plants melted in the spell last winter. Problem for me is I don't know the specific identity of the agaves I see. I'm doubtful all the offerings I see at the nurseries can be trusted. Some of those offer some plants as landscape plants that I know definitively won't survive a winter here.

There's a large, long established and beautiful blue/green speciman growing in the edge of Abilene on a busy street that I note when I drive over there. I've seen no evidence of offsets in the 3-4 years of observation, but it has weathered the temperature drops in winter undamaged.
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