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Oct 16, 2023 5:25 PM CST
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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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This was a nice gift…..then I looked it up! It's small NOW as you can see. I have four other tropicals that do OK but i've never repotted them. So question one; is there a generic soil i can use for Alocasia (3),Ctenanthe (1) and this little Philodendron? Specifically for the Philodendron repotting what size? Would a six inch terracotta be too big? Can I put in a moss pole now or am i being too optimistic on how quickly it'll grow? This is living in the living room atop a small humidifier at the moment. I've had it a couple of weeks. There's a new leaf coming. Last question for now is that i wondered if this was from a tissue culture? It's so small. $29.99 from Delhi Flower and Garden in Ohio. I tip my hat to you.
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Oct 17, 2023 1:01 AM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
I would avoid putting this is a terra cotta planter. It will make the eventual repotting you will have to do difficult because the roots will attach to terra cotta. A plain plastic pot inside a cache pot would be a better choice.
Yes, you will (eventually) need a moss pole. One of the things that gives this philo its dramatic appearance once it gets large is its short intermodal spaces. It is a vigorous climber though. So adding a pole now is the time to add it.
Yes, you can use the same soil mix for all 3 of those genera of plants. Well draining, amended with lots of perlite or pumice with some organic like fir bark thrown in. Avoid peat (too heavy) and chopped moss. Yours looks like it's ready for a 6 inch pot. Those roots are the start of its adventitious climbing roots. Don't bury them all.
Yes this is a tissue culture plant. All the philos coming out now are tc. It's why they are cheaper. They are being mass produced.
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Oct 17, 2023 2:08 AM CST
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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
Sacramento California (Zone 9b)
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Thanks you for all the great info. Love seeing your collection and all your threads are so interesting. I'm so glad you can find the time to share what you know here. I tip my hat to you.
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Oct 17, 2023 6:59 AM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
Oh my thanks! You're welcome. I resisted getting one of these for the longest time. Believe it or not, a Billietiae before these went into tissue culture (about a year ago) sold for up to $200, and usually it wasn't a whole plant it was a cutting off someone's established plant that you had to baby and root and get going. The variegated forms were selling for $500 or more. Those have yet to come out in TC, only the green form so far.
I resisted buying a Billie for that reason. The cost, and the fact that I need another climbing Philo like I need a hole in the head. But we went down to EFG Orchids for their annual Octoberfest sale on Oct 1 and they had nice TC plants for $16.00 so I got one. I'm gonna get it on a pole soon.
It's important to know this, just so you know....
All the plants that are coming out now in the aroid genera into grocery stores, box stores, independent nurseries, Etsy, eBay etc are all tissue culture. All the alocasias, anthuriums, philodendrons, syngoniums, etc are all TC now.
The only exceptions to this are plants that are grown from seed (which you can buy from some collectors and collector owned nurseries), plants like Amorphophallus that grow from tubers etc)
TC has been around since the 1960's. If someone tries to sell you a plant (or a cutting off a plant) and advertises it as (NOT TC) it usually actually is TC. Their original plant that they propagated is 99% always an old TC plant. But they may be too uneducated to know that. They think because THEY bought it as a cutting from someone else, grew it and propped it to sell, that it somehow isn't TC anymore...?
Nope. Progeny of a TC plant is still a TC plant, just a generation or more removed.
Even many seed grown plants trace roots back to TC parents.
Unless you are buying from a collector who actually went out into the jungle in Indonesia or South America and collected a plant or collected the seeds off a wild plant, or imported one naturally grown, brought it back and propagated it for sale, or from a nursery like Ecuagenera who actually maintains decades old breeding stock plants at the 5 compound growing operation in Ecuador that they propagate for sale (but at the same time they also do sell some TC plants for things like Alocasia, syngoniums etc) you are buying a TC plant.

We need to feel lucky that these plants are actually back in TC now. Many many ornamental species were scrapped from TC houses in the period after the big recession that started in 2008. They just couldn't sell them (even at what we would consider cheap prices compared to prices now) because people had to conserve money and stopped buying them. So we are lucky TC plants are back.
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Oct 22, 2023 7:40 AM CST
Name: Sherri
Central Florida (Zone 9b)
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I got one of those Billie's at EFG orchids also. Thumbs up
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Oct 22, 2023 7:42 AM CST
Name: Sherri
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Such great info Gina...thanks.
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Oct 23, 2023 3:46 PM CST
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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
Sacramento California (Zone 9b)
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The special potting soil, a Philodendron imperial soil mix from rePotme.com, showed up so i did. Roots were a bit wound up in that tiny two inch pot so I did a bit of unwinding and in it went. Still needs a bit of tweeking. It may not need the moss pole if I can grow it well enough to keep the internodes compact. Thanks again for the info and great forum.
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Oct 24, 2023 5:26 AM CST
Name: Sherri
Central Florida (Zone 9b)
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@HamiltonSquare Looks good and nice pot too. I like your Living stone pic on the front page this morning, pretty cool close up. Thumbs up
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Oct 24, 2023 6:05 AM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
Yah that kid was ready for a new pot!
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