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Dec 13, 2023 5:43 PM CST
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Name: Scott A
St Louis, Mo (Zone 6a)
I enjoy trying different plants and one of my favorite follies is ordering mail-order plants from Japan. I have been doing this for about ten years now. They usually arrive in December and have to come bare-root to meet import requirements. I just got a text confirming this year's order was shipped from Japan this morning, so should arrive in a few days. I usually pot them up in pots and keep them in my unheated garage until spring. But this year, the weather has been so warm, I was thinking of planting them outside. The soil isn't frozen yet. But I expect at some point, typical winter cold will arrive. (Last year, it was -6 degrees a few days before Christmas. It's supposed to be in the 50's for at least the upcoming week.) Planting outside would allow the plants to emerge at a more appropriate time in spring (they come up too early in the garage and start getting leggy from the imperfect conditions of my garage which I think weakens them before I can plant them out). But would their dormant roots be able to withstand sudden winter cold before they have had a chance to settle in? These are perennials, by the way, not shrubs or trees (mostly woodland perennials such as polygonatums). I would appreciate any opinions.
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Dec 13, 2023 9:40 PM CST
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If temps were not to get cold for a week or more after they arrive I would think it would be ok. If I remember right it takes up to 2 weeks for the shipping. I kind of remember mine coming closer to March though. Are you using YUZAWA ENGEI ? If you were getting more then one of each plant I would do one each way just to be safe. I was looking myself but my other knee is supposed to get done early next Spring and do not know if I will be up to panting anything.
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Dec 14, 2023 9:18 AM CST
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Name: Scott A
St Louis, Mo (Zone 6a)
Yes, I'm using Yazuwa Engei. I didn't think shipping usually takes that long, but I guess I'll find out soon enough. If they don't arrive for a couple weeks, I think it will have to be garage for sure. But if they come soon, might try planting them out.
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Dec 14, 2023 9:27 PM CST
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Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
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Good luck with them which ever you try. They carry a interesting selection and prices seem pretty good to me.
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Dec 28, 2023 2:50 PM CST
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 6a)
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Do. You guys mind sharing a link for our viewing pleasure.
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Dec 28, 2023 9:30 PM CST
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Name: Bob
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https://www.yuzawa-engei.net/0...
Here is their website
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Dec 29, 2023 11:33 AM CST
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Name: Scott A
St Louis, Mo (Zone 6a)
An update - my plants arrived 2 days ago. Transit time from Japan was 9 days. I haven't planted them yet, as it's been drizzly/snowy - not exactly planting weather. I have unwrapped them all - they look great. I rewetted the wrapping paper towels to keep them moist until I get around to planting them. Our upcoming weather is supposed to be in the 40's for the next week or so, with lows in upper 20's. I think I'm going to try to plant most of them out, but I'll decide for sure once I try a few.

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Their plants are reasonably priced - many of the ones I ordered are between $5 and $10, but I got some strange-looking variegated polygonatums that were over $20 each. Payment is easy via PayPal. You can only order 12 plants unless you have a wholesaler's license. Since I ordered 20 plants, they divied it up into 2 orders. I've been ordering from them for years and have never had a snafu.
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Dec 29, 2023 8:39 PM CST
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I have only ordered a few times but never had any issues. Prices are better then US suppliers of the Podophyllum.
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Dec 30, 2023 4:54 PM CST
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Name: Scott A
St Louis, Mo (Zone 6a)
I bit the bullet and planted them all out today. It was a nice weather day (upper 40's) - it is supposed to be cooler (upper 30's) but still unseasonably warm for the next 7-10 days. Lows mid-upper 20's. I'm still a little worried about hard freeze so soon after planting but I figured better than facing the issue of them all breaking dormancy too soon if I had planted them in pots kept in the garage. We'll see.
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Dec 30, 2023 5:53 PM CST
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Best of luck with them.
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Dec 31, 2023 12:43 AM CST
Name: Nancy
Northeastern Illinois (Zone 5b)
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I've planted shrubs very very late in the fall and they've always been fine. One year I had the holes dug but it snowed very heavily, and then the plants came. I thought I'd have to try to overwinter them indoors, but a week later enough of the snow melted and the ground was still soft so I planted them. They did very well too and came up in spring without any issues. I'd say they'll be fine, but let us know come spring how they make out.
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Dec 31, 2023 1:14 AM CST
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 6a)
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@NJBOB thanks for the link.
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