These are 2 really old plants I have. Like planted in the GH in 2002 old.
I can;t remember what they are exactly.
So I am calling on people who I think may have croton experience....@sunkissed, @ardesia, @dyzzypyxxy, @ScotTi....
And anyone else who knows about crotons.

The first one is a plant I got in a trade. The trader called it 'Rasta'. But there is no croton cultivar named Rasta. I think they meant DREADLOCKS. But, I am wondering, is Dreadlocks the same plant as King of Siam? They seem quite similar. Mine gets the white that turns to cream on some leaves. The leaves start out looking normal, and as they are they twist





The second plant is this one. I can;t seem to match it exactly either. It resembles both Victoria Gold Bell, and Zanzibar, but neither is an exact match. I feel this one is a common one. Just can;t remember the name. It's not Mammey, the leaves are not all that wavy on the edge, they are more straight. But I guess it could be Mammey

Gina, #1Looks to be 'Pie Crust' (wavey leaf edges) in very first photo. The other photos look like 'Curly Boy' #2 Looks like 'Lauren's Rainbow'

@ScotTi the one you think is Piecrust is the same plant as the one you think is Curly Boy

Gina1960 said: @ScotTi the one you think is Piecrust is the same plant as the one you think is Curly Boy

The first photo the leaf edges look different than the other photos.

I know. The new leaves come out that way. They don't curl til later

Gina
King of Siam and Dreadlocks are 2 different named Crotons.

Ok I feel really, really stupid. You are right. These are 2 separate plants. I suppose way back in the way back, I planted these side by side. Then I forgot I did that. I went out and actually pulled the branches apart and☄️ two different plants.
All this time, I thought leaves were coming out one way and morphing. But, no.
So I think you are right. One is pie crust.
How do you differentiate Dreadlocks from Curly Boy?

LOL @ScotTi I was reading your old 2010 posts on PalmTalk about Curly Boy

Gina1960 said: LOL @ScotTi I was reading your old 2010 posts on PalmTalk about Curly Boy

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Gina, The Dreadlocks has long twisting cascading leaves and Curly Boy has a more upright curly leaf.
I no longer grow Dreadlocks as it did not like the Winters cool temps here and would drop every leaf if temps went into the 40s and would return to its glory in time to drop them again. I gave all the Winter wimps away to other plant enthusiasts who could give them a better Winter home along the coast further south.

One more ID ask. Is this Batik?

Yes Gina that is a very well grown 'Batik'. Do you have it growing in your greenhouse?

Yes! It's been growing all these years in a group with Andrew and Mrs, Iceton. Thanks! I have all my guys ID'd now!!!!
I am thinking about cutting the Lauren's Rainbow and trying making it bushier. Is that a good idea, or a bad one?
I also have 3 Picassos Paintbrush. It started life as one plant that I g=bought in the late 1990's at the Fairchild Gardens Ramble one year. It's been in the GH all this time, but not getting enough light. It lost color so I dug it up and containerized it. Ended up with 3 separate plants.
In addition to the Mango, I ordered a Ramshorn from Vintage Greens.

Ok @ScotTi last one I swear.
This was a big mature plant I decided to remove from the greenhouse about 5 years ago. I planted it out and of course it froze a few times.
It started coming back so I containerized it again.
It may be too small a sample to identify.
It's really cute. Gets a lot of pink

If you have the patience to look up each and every listed variety to see the pictures you can check on:
https://www.palmpedia.net/wiki...
they have alphabetical and also by leaf shape listings.
I am sure you know https://peterscrotonnursery.co... .
they do mention that prices at their Vero Beach nursery are much lower, then online. They also bring their plants to various plant shows.

Gina1960 said: Ok @ScotTi last one I swear.
This was a big mature plant I decided to remove from the greenhouse about 5 years ago. I planted it out and of course it froze a few times.
It started coming back so I containerized it again.
It may be too small a sample to identify.
It's really cute. Gets a lot of pink

Gina, I can't ID by the current photo. You saw it in better days.
Here is a photo of my Croton that comes to mind for your comparison.

Your thoughts??

Looks very similar

i'll jump on a bandwagon if you don't mind. I've had one for a pretty long time NOID and it looks very much like Gina's 'Lauren's Rainbow'.
do you think it is?

Welcome aboard lol

@Gina1960 My photo posted is of 'Victoria Gold Bells' and is considered a interrupted leaf Croton. As you can see by the photo I posted not all leaves are interrupted. I get whole limbs that never put out a single interrupted leaf.
I grow this one in midday full sun to bring out the coloration.
Here is another photo of the same plant different limb.

@skylark Your Croton looks like 'Lauren's Rainbow' to me.