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Jun 6, 2014 6:47 AM CST

I want to say that the bigger one is over-potted. I've read that you want to have your AV in pots no larger than 1/3 the diameter of the plant. So if you have a plant that's 12 inches across, (dividing by three), you want to have it in a four inch pot. I'm not sure what size rootball you have on that bigger one, but "worst case" scenario, put it in a 4 inch pot.

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Jun 6, 2014 4:16 PM CST

I forgot to add, be sure you don't bury the crowns (pot the AVs too deep). If soil stays wet and it's surrounding the crown, it can rot the crown and you'll lose the plant. Better to have the plant sitting up a little too high than too deep IMO.

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Jun 16, 2014 7:04 PM CST
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However, if you have a naked stem under the leaves from pulling old leaves off, pull the plant out, cut an inch or more off the bottom rootball so that the bottom leaves will be even with the rim of pot. I slightly scrape the stem( usually with the blade of Exacto knife) then refill pot up to bottom of leaves. The stem will put out roots into the soil in a couple weeks. Keep soil moist until the roots develop. Karen M
To fill under the leaves I use a teaspoon to spoon soil under the leaves until stem is covered.
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Jun 18, 2014 1:33 PM CST
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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I have noticed some of my older "babies" leaves are turning yellow. Can you direct me to a link that will explain about the color changes in leaves. Is it overwatering (they all get watered at the same time usually) and not all of them are turning yellow. I will be glad to do my research but I need to know where to begin. Thanks very much.
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Jun 18, 2014 2:00 PM CST

I think yellow could mean a nutrient deficiency.

Here's a direct link to Optimara's Doctor Optimara. This page specifically deals with leaves, their symptoms, causes, and fixes.

http://www.optimara.com/doctor...

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Jun 18, 2014 2:29 PM CST
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Jun 18, 2014 4:07 PM CST

Welcome! Welcome! Welcome! Hilarious!

Did you find the information you needed? I admit I just scrolled through the list.

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Jun 19, 2014 10:49 AM CST
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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Yes, I was on the right track. I am sure it had to do with change in light and watering. I knew I did something different but the fact it only affected a few of them had me questioning myself. That link and some other forum reading I am sure it was my own stupidity that caused it. To top it off I have been under the weather for two weeks with an URI that put me on my back for a week and I neglected them big time. I did however move them and watered them. Thanks again. Lovey dubby
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Jun 19, 2014 12:16 PM CST

JB,
You're welcome. Smiling I'm glad you figured out what was causing them to yellow (and it's something you can easily fix!). I believe that some cultivars are more sensitive to changes than others. For example, I did read somewhere when researching fertilizer, that some are more sensitive than others to fertilizer burn (I wouldn't have guessed that). That may be why you noticed the change in some of your AVs but not in others.

Fortunately, I think AVs are rather tough plants and will bounce back. They're always producing new leaves, so the ugly ones won't be there forever!

I am not sure what URI is. I'm not trying to pry though and I don't expect you to explain. Whatever it was, it sounded like it was enough to keep you from tending to your children (green children that is), so it must not have been good. I hope you're feeling/doing better now though.

Welcome!

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Jun 20, 2014 7:05 AM CST
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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URI is what we old folks used to call the common cold.....or sinus infection or whatever. Now if your nose runs it is a URI Upper Respiratory Infection. See....ain't that easy? I have no idea why they keep changing names of the old fashion aches and pains. It was so easy years ago to say I have a nasty "summer" cold. This one was really nasty. Of course I did not go to the doctor until I ran a fever, so it is my fault it got so far ahead of me and at my old age they worry about other complications. I am now wondering if most of mine is not allergies. My nose itches, my eyes itch and I am sneezing again. Dang, this is the pits. I have no energy either. I am going in to town today for the first time in nearly 3 weeks. I was going to have the groceries delivered, but then I got to thinking it is best I make myself go and get them. You can get really lazy as you get older and I am not going to let that happen if I can help it.

I am still learning about AVs and a friend sent me all her collection when she moved and now I am up to my ears in AVs and I really am not a big fan since I do not know enough to be completely comfortable with them. I will do my best to keep them healthy and happy. I do not feel safe putting them in the greenhouse since the weather makes keeping a steady temp. and humidity at a level they would like almost impossible. Even with the shade cloth on the sun is deadly in there at times. Much too hot for AVs.
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Jun 20, 2014 2:13 PM CST

That's not an acronym I've heard before, thanks for the information! I'm sorry to hear you're still feeling under the weather though. It sounds like allergies to me, but I am not a doctor, so I could be wrong. I have had the same symptoms before, I seem to get "Spring allergies" every year. Except I seem to get allergies right before Spring hits. Hilarious! I can imagine it is easy to "get lazy" when you get older, as some folks have more aches and pains than they used to have when they were younger. My Dad is in his early 60s and he made the decision that he wanted to be on his feet doing things for as long as he could.

How long have you had your collection?

AVs aren't that hard to care for IMO. I only have three, but having a jungle full of them could be a bit time consuming (at least it's a jungle of easy plants). I try to only grow plants that are easy and not demanding (I don't like Diva plants), so if that says anything by me telling you I own a couple lol. I don't see them as requiring any different care than other plants in the sense that they don't want to be too wet/dry, have too much sun/too little, be given too much fertilizer/too little (no different in that aspect than any other plant if you ask me). The only special requirement I can think of is requiring a special type of soil, but cacti can't grow in the same soil as say a 'Peace Lily' so that's not a big deal in my book.

The only other thing that sticks out to me is to remember to repot them every 6-12 months. Take them out of their pot, remove 1/3 of the bottom of the rootball, place fresh soil on top (if necessary), and wallah, you're done! Over time, they will lose their bottom leaves and develop a neck, this will keep the neck from forming.

Okay, that makes two special requirements, but that's easy peasy compared to some plants I've read about lol. I think it's nice because you'll never have to repot them in larger pots. Most, if not all, will stay in the same 4 inch pot. I don't have special grow lights, I know some people do. I have a Southeast window where they're about 2 feet away and so far they bloom every couple months. I've read an East window is good, not sure about a North, but West and South are too intense (sounds like your greenhouse is too).

Sometimes we buy plants on a whim not knowing how to care for them, do what we "normally" do, and they thrive. Sometimes they don't. I figure that's just nature's way of weeding out the ones that I didn't need. I know I've bought a couple of plants that I couldn't find thorough care information online and had to wing it. They have become my favorite plants. I hope this is reassuring to you. I've read if you can grow holiday cacti (I see a Thanksgiving cactus in your picture), you can grow an AV. Or was that if you can grow an AV, you can grow a holiday cactus? I dunno, but I'm sure you'll be fine! If you ever have a question about an AV, just let me know. I'm no expert, but I must be doing something right. If I don't have the answer, I'll try to find it for you.

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Jun 21, 2014 9:51 AM CST
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Jun 21, 2014 10:15 AM CST

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Jul 16, 2014 9:39 AM CST
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I have 2 African Violets with no ID's.

The purple one is from 1993. I bought it almost dead at a department store. It is a wonderful plant that will hang off the side of the pot....a hanging plant, if one lets it.

The frilly magenta and white one came from a florist and had no flowers when I bought it.

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Jul 16, 2014 10:42 AM CST
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I think they are both beautiful. You really rescued that blue one. It is lucky you bought it. I love the colors. I am especially in love with the magenta one, it is so gorgeous!!! Hurray! I need to go water mine.
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Jul 17, 2014 6:41 AM CST

Sadly there are so many AVs out there, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to provide a proper ID (unless it was grown by a particular "breeder," such as Optimara or Bob's Violets; both have pages that lists all their cultivars). I have a couple from Home Depot that were not grown by Optimara or anyone else who lists cultivars so I'll never know what they are unfortunately. The second one reminds me of an Optimara cultivar, but I'm not good enough with AVs to say if there's another lookalike out there that's a non-Optimara AV. I wouldn't want to give you a name and it not even be an Optimara AV.

I really like the first one, that is not a color you see every day. Actually, I've never seen that color lol.

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Jul 17, 2014 7:38 AM CST
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Our Home Depot and Wal-Mart Garden Centers used to always carry a lot of Optimara Violets and a few years ago I was seeing many from a Canadian grower on their shelves but I never see AV's for sale around here at all anymore.
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Jul 17, 2014 8:12 AM CST
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I have had plants that are totally different colors and appear so differently from one blooming cycle to the next.

I was at Home Depot two days ago and there were about 5 AVs there but they were not in bloom and had so many other plants around them that it would be hard to find them.

If you ever want to sell leaves from that pink and white one, I would be interested. Now dear friend, Planto, please don't hit me... Rolling on the floor laughing Hilarious! Rolling on the floor laughing
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The lavender purple was a typical color in the 60's.
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