ATP Podcast #45: Talking Roses with Calif_Sue and Zuzu

By dave
February 7, 2014

An unbelievable opportunity! Today we are joined by ATP Plant Admins Calif_Sue and Zuzu, who will talk about roses.

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Feb 6, 2014 8:03 PM CST
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Once again a very entertaining program. Hearing the voices to go with the personalities was great. I did miss the normal farm update, but I picked up a lot of good info. Overhead watering for Roses was a huge shock for me, I did that till everyone told me not to. I thought cleaning off the foliage was good, now I have confirmation. I just need to be careful when I do it. I recommend the pod cast every chance I get.
I want to say I think you deserve acorns, but I am currently out, Zuzu seems to think she has enough anyhow, do you have a credit dept?
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Feb 6, 2014 8:17 PM CST
Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Canadian Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Roses
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So nice to hear the voices of the words. Quite entertaining.
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Feb 6, 2014 8:21 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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I was certainly delighted that they both agreed to be interviewed for the podcast. It was great and they did perfectly.

Trish and I decided to forego the usual farm updates so we could save as much time as possible for Sue and Zuzu. Plus, well, there wasn't a whole lot going on this past week except us freezing and staying huddled indoors! Smiling
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Feb 6, 2014 11:09 PM CST
Name: Mike
Long Beach, Ca.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member Roses Hummingbirder Farmer Daylilies
Birds Cat Lover Region: California Bulbs Butterflies Garden Ideas: Level 1
It was really great to finally get to hear CalifSue. She sounds just as I picture her to sound. (OK, that was poor wording but I don't know else to say it LOL !)
Zuzu sounds exactly as she does in person...I had the good fortune to actually meet her years ago (Dave, too !) at the gathering in Temecula they referred to in the podcast.
These two ladies contribute a wealth of information and whenever I want to research a rose I go immediately to the ATP Rose database. There's really no need to go elsewhere because it grows better and better every day.

I'm glad Zuzu emphasized contributing to the database and encouraging more people to do so. The more input we get from across the country on a given rose is very helpful for all of us. Regardless of how insignificant you feel your input may be, go ahead and contribute anyway. Someone will benefit from it, so don't be shy.

Thank you Sue and Zuzu for your enormous contributions, and thank you, Dave, for this site !
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Feb 7, 2014 5:35 AM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Region: United States of America
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This was absolutely the BEST podcast Dave and Trish - thank you so much!

Sue and Zuzu - I can't tell you how much I enjoyed hearing your voices. Hurray! Crying Thumbs up I have talked to you via tree-mail so many times and to hear your voices was the icing on the cake. You are both SO knowledgeable and so patient with problem children like me *Blush* and so helpful. It's such an honor to know you both.

My dad grew beautiful roses and Mr. Lincoln was his favorite. I grew up in zone 5 but every fall, he would put rose cones over his roses and cover them with burlap type blankets and then rope around that. It looked so ugly but in summer time, his roses were just beautiful. He would root many roses just by cutting, sticking them in the ground and putting a glass over it.

Thank you all, for this podcast Group hug Group hug

Edited to say that while we realize we wouldn't have this fantastic website without Dave and Trish, it would not be the wonderful website it is without Sue and Zuzu.
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Feb 7, 2014 8:44 AM CST
Name: Tara
NE. FL. (Zone 9a)
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Just finished listening to the Podcast…And I loved it! I've learned so much, and I'm feeling very inspired! I'd always thought that roses were picky, disease prone, and just plain old difficult to grow. My 'fears' of growing roses have been diminished after listening and learning from these two wonderful women! And this full week of articles from ALL the wonderful people here, have really inspired me to "break ground" for some beautiful blooms. Green Grin! Can't thank you enough!!!!
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Feb 7, 2014 9:54 AM CST
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
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Thank you all for your nice comments seedfork, Joanne, Calsurf73/Mike, Vicki, (you sweet thing you!), Tara and of course Dave!

I certainly was flattered (although flustered as well Hilarious! ) when Dave asked us to do this but it was fun, Dave is so easy to chat with, we could have easily made this much longer than it already was. nodding
I'm glad to hear this rose week has been an inspiration for many and that you enjoyed podcast.

ATP is such a wonderful forward moving garden site. It's success is based not only on the creative minds and talent of Dave and Trish but also the wonderful ideas and inputs from it's growing members like all of you! So please, set yourself a little goal to perhaps add a little something to the database each time you visit, maybe something like 5 items each time. A photo, a comment on how it grows for you, maybe flesh out a little of the details, every little bit helps!

Now ya all come on out to Californay and visit us! I tip my hat to you. Bring an extra suitcase, we are surrounded by nurseries here! Green Grin!
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Feb 7, 2014 12:19 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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It was wonderful to hear what Zuzu and Sue sound like! I really enjoyed the podcast and thank Dave and Trish for interviewing two of my favorite gardening people.

In the past, when I'd hear my local gardeners talk of the evils of overhead watering for roses, I had to wonder if they stood outside with umbrellas to protect their roses. Then I got to see rose bushes at one of their properties and the roses were planted in full shade; so much for their knowledge. It's enough to keep the house free of dust, I can't dust my plants as well!
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Feb 7, 2014 12:47 PM CST

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Inspired. Listening so far to the Calif-Sue portion of podcast. I am inspired to replace some 80 David Austins that were destroyed when I lost the water line to that section of the rose garden. I am inspired after some years, to replant the David Austins and some new one's besides that Sue has mentioned. You couldn't have chosen better experts, Dave. I have been following Zuzu and Calif Sue for some years. I remember many years ago an article about orange roses that was the inspiration for my David Austin rose garden. A favorite scene was Pat Austin with a background of black hollyhocks. Maybe 2014 will be the year to get back into roses, my first love among plants.
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Feb 7, 2014 5:41 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Region: Ukraine Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis
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So nice to hear from you, Gloria -- one of my online gardening friends of longest standing, along with my BFF Pirlie and my pal Calsurf73, who will always be JasperDale to me. Lovey dubby

Vicki, it wouldn't be the wonderful website it is without you either. Your contributions are appreciated so much! Seedfork and Tara, thanks so much for the kind words. Joanne, you're one of the main reasons for the success of Roses Week. Your beautifully illustrated articles are such a joy to read.

Let's continue the crusade for overhead watering and against unnecessary pruning. Spread the word!
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Feb 7, 2014 9:17 PM CST
Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Canadian Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Roses
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Annuals Container Gardener Vegetable Grower Winter Sowing Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Thanks Zuzu! It's a good thing no one sees the articles before edits Hilarious!
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Feb 7, 2014 9:31 PM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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That was a very interesting podcast! I enjoyed it and now have soil envy of both of them. I have sand here and roses don't much seem to like it. All but one of my roses is grown in pots. (Like I have a lot of roses to begin with ... not.) I need to mosey on over to the rose forum because I have a lot of questions now since listening to these guest speakers.....

Thanks to Sue and ZuZu for speaking this month! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
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Feb 8, 2014 11:40 AM CST
Name: Horseshoe Griffin
Efland, NC (Zone 7a)
And in the end...a happy beginning!
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle I sent a postcard to Randy! I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Great podcast, everybody!

And yep, nice to have a voice to put with Sue and Zuzu. Great info from both of you...thanks for sharing it.

This is a great "icing on the cake" for Rose Week, Dave and Trish. Good going, ya done good! :>)

Shoe (more'n likely now keeping his eyes out for new roses to grow)
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Feb 8, 2014 2:04 PM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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It was a real pleasure to listen to the rose pod cast and enjoy all other aspects of rose week. I plan on listening several more times. It made those two rose loving ladies seem more personal. Lots and lots of great information although every suggestion does not work out the same in different gardens in different areas of the country. One comment.....I often hear that HTs are only hardy to Zone 7. I grow mine successfully here in Zone 5b as do many friends and rose lovers in this area. A vast majority winter well all though some seem more prone to winter kill. I do not mound them or give them any special protection. Two things I do toward fall is not fertilize after the end of July and slowly cut down on the frequency of watering to encourage dormancy. Some years if we have a sudden cold snap before they achieve dormancy I do have more winter kill. This is one of those years. They look black and I will be interested to see how low I will need to go with my pruning.
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Feb 8, 2014 3:49 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Deer take care of all pruning on new growth here. I need a sign that says: BUCKS STOP HERE!
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Feb 8, 2014 5:09 PM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Birds Ponds
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

That says it all!!! Whistling Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
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