I obtained Red Rubin and Krebs 2 and they are not in the database. Are they real ones or some more of the famous made up stuff I seem to keep finding?

Krebs 2 is the same as Desert Bloom 2 which is in the database.

Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Rubin')

I think this is the same. I asked Lynn the same question some place, maybe t-mail. Lets just get her to verify. @valleylynn

Yep, you two solved the mystery. Julia, you can type either of those names into the database search and they will come up with the correct entry. Both have the incorrect name listed as 'Also sold as'. That way it will come up when some one is searching for the plant under the incorrect name.

I bought 'Rubin' as 'Red Rubin' several years ago. It was Peter that helped with finding the correct name.

I appreciate that info, now I can enter my new babies.

Lori, we want pictures when you get them planted!!!