Thanks, for your help everyone. This will be my 1st year with most of my succulents. The thick leaved sedums didn't grow much or went dormant under shop lights in my garage last winter. So, I will try that again this year, only I will get some new and brighter bulbs. The more tender ones, I will keep indoors in front of a SW facing window. Yes, my escheveria etoliated terribly last year and so did my graptopedalum, so I took cuttings of them this past spring too. The E. Topsy Turvy that I kept in the SW window indoors did OK. I'm learning as I go. I consider it a success if I can keep them alive over the winter.