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Feb 5, 2015 7:45 PM CST

Daylilies Region: Texas
I'll pull on it very, very gently with my fingers. If it comes off, great, if it doesn't, Ill leave it and try again a day or two later. If it eventually begins to hinder its development, then it's time for surgery.
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Feb 5, 2015 8:08 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
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I've picked before and pulled off the new leaves. I don't think I will do it ever again!
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Feb 5, 2015 10:16 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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I'm definitely Team pick, but the drop of water is a great idea! Would a saturated Q-tip work? I've pulled off a tiny leaf before, too but I think that leaf probably wouldn't open anyway, if the seed coat stayed on too long.
Elaine

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Feb 5, 2015 10:17 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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A saturated Q-tip could work. Anything to hold the water on the seed to get it soft.
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Feb 6, 2015 11:08 AM CST
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Name: Trish
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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You might wait to pick teams until the article actually runs Green Grin!
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Feb 6, 2015 11:19 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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I agree Thumbs up
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Feb 6, 2015 11:26 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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Picky, picky.... Green Grin!
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Feb 6, 2015 11:27 AM CST
Name: Taqiyyah
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Team leave it alone here. I enjoy watching it quietly heave itself into the open and push its little seed-coat "roof" up and off the way we do a coat when it gets too warm. Even if it gets a little stuck, it usually finds a way around that.
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Feb 6, 2015 1:58 PM CST
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Name: Trish
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Green Grin!
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Mar 30, 2015 10:50 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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Ok, i propose this one as it just drives me crazy. Let me explain that where i live in TX, there seems to be a total unwillingness to water a garden. So, they spend the time to till, plant, weed, but they will NOT water so much as 1 watermelon plant! Then, i get to hear " oh, i didnt get any watermelons, it was too dry.
So......
Team water the garden or
Team let the garden tough it out
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Mar 31, 2015 6:07 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Water! Auto irrigation is the way to go for those too lazy to drag out their hose. Of course, if they are too lazy to water, they are probably too cheap to put in an irrigation system. Sticking tongue out
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Mar 31, 2015 7:28 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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Yeah, this one's a no-brainer! You can let a xeriscape garden fend for itself, and some stuff might survive. But if you want to grow food crops it seems pretty obvious you have to water. Mind you, they probably shouldn't be planting watermelons either! Too demanding.

Does your County Extension service offer any free classes on installing your own micro-irrigation? It's easy, cheap and very water-efficient and I think it's as much fun as playing with Lego. Surely your 'lazy' neighbors aren't all that lazy that they wouldn't install just a small area of efficient irrigation and buy a timer for it?
Elaine

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Mar 31, 2015 10:13 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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Rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 31, 2015 10:25 AM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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Oh cool....a Nature vs Nurture question nodding
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Mar 31, 2015 10:57 AM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level
There are parts of my plantings where I put a plant in the ground, pat it on the head, and say 'good luck' knowing I will never drag a hose out that far. I usually plant these areas in early spring or late fall when I can count on rain to get them settled in. Some make it, others don't. My driveway shrub border is one. Also doesn't get weeded very often, as can be seen from this field side view.

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For the rest of my beds, I don't have an irrigation system and occasionally remember to set up sprinklers. I also wander around with the hose & sprayer and blast things that look parched in late summer. But, hey, I live in the Pacific NW.
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Mar 31, 2015 11:22 AM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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No question - irrigate!

A small system can be had for $60 to $86 without even shopping for bargains.

A really basic system could be made for $42 - 1/2" tubing + 1/4" dripline + a few fittings.

A wind-up timer (manual) adds $16, so you can set it for "45 minutes" and walk away.

If you want everything watered regularly whether you are home or not, a battery timer adds $40-50 and a professional AC timer could cost $50 to $100.

Or start by spending $30 to run 1/2" mainline from your spigot to your beds and then put multiple hose spigots everywhere in your yard you want them. Then, adding drip irrigation to that network of garden hose spigots would only cost an extra $16-$40.

http://garden.org/ideas/view/R...

$16 - - 100' 1/2" tubing, 240 GPH
$ 8 - - - pressure regulator
$ 9 - - - filter, may not be needed for PC dripline
$10 - - - Tee fittings, valves, barbs

plus

$16 - - - 100' 1/4" dripline, NOT-PC
or
$40 - - - 100' 1/2" dripline, PC
or
$ 7 - - 100' 1/4" tubing (around 40 GPH) plus
$ 6 - - - 30 sprayers, 20 cents each
$0 - $30 - - - stakes if needed for sprayers

$43 + ($16 pr $40 or $13 to 43) = $59 or $83 or $56 to $86
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Mar 31, 2015 3:19 PM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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Or you could ask the children at Murchison Middle School. I'll bet they learned about water use when they created this garden from scratch. http://www.greatstems.com/2012...
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Mar 31, 2015 8:20 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Water for sure! How dumb to go to all the work and expense of preparing a garden, starting seeds or buying plants, planting... and then let things shrivel and dry up unnecessarily. Where I live I could probably get away with never watering most years, but the plants have enough issues with our short growing seasons... I have rain barrels, and if need be will use tap water.

My house plants, however, have become accustomed to living through long periods of drought and neglect Whistling
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Mar 31, 2015 8:33 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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I don't understand it either, but that's what they do. Every year. Surely they get some veggies, but i never see any. The plants just stand there and do nothing.
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Mar 27, 2017 1:22 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

Tomato Heads Avid Green Pages Reviewer
OK, this is titled:

His way......Her way?

Her..I always pick the leaves off my lettuce at 3". That way I only have to wash them and eat. No chopping, very fresh, very tender, leftovers go to chickens the next day.

His...husband thinks I should let lettuce grow to a head and then bring in the whole head. That way you get about 100 heads in a week.

Her...I only pick asparagus that's over 1/4" diameter, leave anything under that size for the plant. That's what instructions say to do.

His... Husband likes asparagus under 1/4". Says the bigger ones are too tough. So, I get all the asparagus, most of the lettuce.

What do you do? I'm all ears!

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