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Apr 29, 2015 9:16 AM CST
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
Region: Canadian Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Tip Photographer Garden Ideas: Master Level I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
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Great photos Melanie, and I think going to the Selby Gardens to cheer yourself up is a great idea. Thumbs up Group hug
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Apr 29, 2015 9:43 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
Amaryllis Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Orchids Master Gardener: Florida Irises
Herbs Region: Florida Vegetable Grower Daylilies Birds Cat Lover
Don't forget to check out the orchids in the greenhouse, Melanie. No butterflies in there, but they always have a great display.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Apr 29, 2015 9:48 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Thanks, Margaret. Selby is really nice and they have a lot of my favorite things. Butterflies, bromeliads, orchids. They're right on the water so I usually see some interesting birds, too. Saw a Yellow-Crowned Night Heron there once. Which is weird considering it was the middle of the day. Hmm...

Also, and I can't stress this enough if you live near a plethora of botanical gardens like me (or travel a lot)...take advantage of the American Horticultural Society's reciprocal gardens program: http://www.ahs.org/gardening-p... Since I'm a member of the USF Botanical Gardens, I can get in to Selby for free using my USF card. I think our family membership to USF is like $35 and one adult ticket to Selby is $19 so you can save some serious money! Plus, I don't feel so guilty buying overpriced food at their cafe. Hilarious! It is good food, though.

Ooh, Elaine posted while I was typing. The greenhouse is always where I head first! Orchids and bromeliads, oh my! Plus, they have a lot of rare or uncommon species and I like to take photos for the plant database.
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Apr 29, 2015 10:33 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
Amaryllis Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Orchids Master Gardener: Florida Irises
Herbs Region: Florida Vegetable Grower Daylilies Birds Cat Lover
Even a shorter drive for you, drop in at Tropiflora on your way down Melanie! You will be blown away by their brom shade houses. If you come across the Sunshine Skyway, just get off the freeway at the Palmetto/Bradenton exit and stick to Hwy. 301. Turn left when you get to Tallevast Rd. and they are on the right a few blocks along.

I'd offer to come meet you, but my family has been here and just left yesterday afternoon so I am swamped with cleaning up after them, and catching up on all my other commitments. School gardens tomorrow for me. I'm so glad the weather will be cooler, too! It really got hot much too early for me.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Apr 29, 2015 12:07 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
Organic Gardener Bookworm Enjoys or suffers hot summers Charter ATP Member Salvias Herbs
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Melanie, I think that's what I need to do also...a nursery tour! I haven't been out to the 2 native nurseries this year and I've had some aggravating health problems that have got me stressed out. A nursery tour always makes me feel better!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Apr 29, 2015 1:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Honestly, I've always found Tropiflora to be overpriced. It's probably because I'm always buying from the local clubs who aren't trying to make a profit. And I'm not allowed to buy any bromeliads for a long time. I have so many! And I went to a member of the Bromeliad Guild's house a couple of months ago to give him a plant I had and in exchange he gave me about twenty! Not kidding - like twenty! See, this is why I had to take time off from MOSI - I have so much of my own gardening to do! Hilarious!

And speaking of my garden, I took a little walk around this afternoon. I had to go get my allergy shots so when I got home I took care of the caterpillars and did a walkabout. There are so many Frits outside! I saw the hummingbird again and he was going for the Jatropha but all the butterflies were on it and then I guess scary me was there, too. Okay, here's one Frit I caught resting on Spiderwort (again).

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Monarch chowing down on the Giant Milkweed.

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Now, I know I've seen milkweed bugs of varying sizes so I suppose they must molt like most insects, but I think I saw one that had just molted today. Check it out!

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My big Palamedes gut purged while I was gone. He's looking more yellow. I moved him to a different tank that's just got a Sulphur chrysalis in it because I didn't want him wandering all over my other caterpillar. I hate when they start stinkhorning each other.

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I think this is one of those Monk Skippers.

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So you know how I'm always saying Zebra Longwings live so long because they can eat pollen, too? And that they collect it on their proboscis? Well, check out the glob this one's got going on! FYI, it's on the Jatropha.

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The first time I saw one like that I freaked out. I was like, "It has something stuck to its proboscis! How will it eat?" And then I learned. Hilarious! Okay, here's one of those Skippers I think is one thing but I'm always wrong. BAMONA always tells me I'm wrong. One of these days, I'll get one right.

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Over on the Passiflora lutea, I have eggs and a Zebra Longwing cat. It's weird because when they're super small they look like a pale orange so you think they might be Gulf Frits. But as they get bigger they turn white while the Gulf Frits turn darker orange. Zebra Longwings also have dots on their head capsule so you can always stare them in the face and see who they are.

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Now, Gulf Frits are the most commonly encountered butterfly in the area, whether or not you grow passion vine. Seriously, I saw several driving to my allergist and then again in the parking lot. But if you grow passion vine you will be inundated. Also, I remembered my promise to look and see if my Gulf Frits have stripes like Cecelia in Argentina's do. This winter I took some pictures of some with stripes, but mine don't have them now except the one caterpillar who has one down his back. But earlier this year they had them on their sides, too. Maybe it's a seasonal variation?

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In other news, as I was typing the Sulphur chrysalis started banging against the side of the container because Palamedes was trying to share his stick. It was really loud, so I went in and moved Palamedes to the bottom. And now he's crawled right back up next to the chrysalis. Just shaking my head.

Oh, and while I was at the allergist, someone left the Sunday home section of the Tribune which has the gardening section. Very fortuitous. You have to wait thirty minutes after you get your shot (so they make sure you do't go into shock, I guess). They had an article about daylilies and some big show we're having. Apparently, our local club holds the first daylily show in the continental U.S. I might go and take pictures just to harass the daylily people. Rolling on the floor laughing And then next weekend there's a rose show. It's going to be at one of the local malls which means air conditioning! So might check that out, too. I don't grow either daylilies or roses but I like to look and take pictures for the plant database. Good to get out of the house, too.
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Apr 29, 2015 3:03 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Very interesting about that milkweed bug. Thanks for the skipper ID Melanie. It will be great for you to get out & about & take a nice little road trip. The rose show will be cool in more ways than one! Hilarious! Go harass those daylily people. I bet you'll find all of them taking photos too. I understand some of the places give you a free daylily so you'll probably be bringing at least a few home. Hilarious!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Apr 29, 2015 3:13 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
No daylilies for me! I am so not a daylily person. I'm not even sure I'm a lily person. I like the way they look but I've told Mom not to get bouquets from the store with lilies because I sneeze like crazy. But I think those are the Asian variety. The only specific plant shows I've been to are orchids, African Violets, and bromeliads. I think orchid people are the craziest...err...most intense. But looking at all the daylily stuff on here they might give the orchid folks a real challenge.

And speaking of shows...everyone, we have a new feature on ATP. It's the Gardening Calender of Events. On the left menu, click "Goodies" and then click "Gardening Calender of Events". It's up to us to add things to it. So if you know of any plant shows or sales in your area (especially butterfly plants!) go ahead and add the event. As a Floridian, I just want your tourist dollars! Rolling on the floor laughing But seriously, it's a good resource to have but it will only be as good as we make it. It's a great way to advertise your area, too. A lot of us don't like to shop the big box stores for various reasons (like pesticides killing our caterpillars) so native plant sales can be a great alternative. And you can usually find more varied plants than you do at the big box stores. So explore the new calender and then add to it!
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Apr 29, 2015 5:42 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
My Palamedes has picked a spot and turned yellow! And that spot is next to, but not on top of the Sulphur so we're good there. That thumping was getting annoying. Now, most of us are more familiar with the Spicebush. And most of the books I read say the Spicebush caterpillars turn a golden color when they're about to pupate. But here in Florida, they turn orange. I wondered if my idea of gold was different than the authors I've read. So I raised a West Virginian Spicebush and sure enough, they are lighter when they turn color. They do look gold. I don't know know why the caterpillars change color in the first place, but the Florida ones definitely turn orange. Although, I was just reading that some people think we have a subspecies of Spicebush down here so maybe that's part of the variation? Anyway, I knew Palamedes changed but it's been so long I couldn't remember if they were gold or orange or somewhere in between. So far, this guy looks yellow. Sorry about the bad lighting. My room is on the north side so it's dark. Oh, and I forgot to say that when I took pictures of him this morning, my camera thought the eyespots were actual eyes and the facial recognition box popped up around him! I thought that was pretty cool.

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In caterpillar news, one of the four Spicebush STs I found on my plant died. It looks like he didn't molt properly. Thumbs down I also found some more Sulphur cats while picking food this morning. They're tiny so I put them in a small container. If I put them in the big one, I'd never find them and end up accidentally throwing them away when I cleaned the cage. And my largest American Lady made his (her?) J today.

Well, my camera is charged up for my trip to Selby but I'm going to take an extra battery just in case. And I'm going to clean out my tote bag now and put said camera in it so I can't forget it. I'm totally the type of person that would be halfway to Sarasota and realize I forgot my camera. I already printed out directions and put them in my car. At least I have a smartphone now so I guess that could always help in an emergency. Now I just have to resist the urge to buy anything in their plant shop! The books in the gift shop are fair game, though!
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Apr 29, 2015 8:23 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Happy trip Melanie! We'll look forward to photos when you get home.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Apr 29, 2015 11:01 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
Region: Canadian Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Tip Photographer Garden Ideas: Master Level I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Morning Glories Critters Allowed Birds Houseplants Butterflies Garden Photography
Have fun Melanie!
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Apr 30, 2015 6:18 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
I can't believe I'm awake this early! I'm going to slather on some sunscreen and go have fun. The high is supposed to be 79 in Tampa. This may be the last time we see a high under 80 for a long time so I'm going to enjoy it!
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Apr 30, 2015 4:41 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
I started a new thread for May since we're only a few hours away. I saw a certain butterfly for the first time ever today! What was it? Click the May thread to find out! The thread "May 2015 Butterflies, Moths & Larva" in Gardening for Butterflies, Birds and Bees forum

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