Here's some pow wow wild berry that I winter sowed 2 years ago. They doing great-





Here's some regular echinacea I've had for 6-7 years now-

Those are pretty. 6th picture down is really nice!

Yes. Very nice.

I guess I just have to find the right plant and make sure it isn't where it will get too much water. Or maybe not that it gets too much water as my soil is rather water retentive. We really don't get that much rain despite the continuous over caste days.

Moisture while it's growing is ok. But it seems to be when it's dormant during the winter, or in early spring when it's coming up that too much will just make it rot.

Resurrecting this thread. My echie is Rubinstein (aka Ruby Star) which I think is fairly common. I've had it since 2004 and have divided it a couple times. This last year it lost vigor and this spring I only have one small plant coming up.. Have others found echies to be short lived? I plan to get another Rubinstein (or two) to increase my clump again. I've also noted the ones others have had luck with in the PNW.

Some grow better here than others, but I suppose that may depend greatly on how wet the area is where they are planted. One thing to keep in mind is that often, it is not "user error" but the grower source. Example: I have recently re-landscaped a front yard for a friend & was surprised to see how many times the lavenders & rosemaries are started in mixtures heavy in peat. Rot can easily occur, especially if the juvenile plants are watered more than they need. Discouraging & irritating to source plants, then lose them to poor cultivation practices inflicted on them prior to purchase, especially when they are trendy ($$$$) & then scarce. I have had luck growing on my Echies in larger nursery pots so I have more control over drainage/slugs/Rabbits & the like. Perhaps best to start from seed in some instances...