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Jul 29, 2015 8:05 AM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
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I love the pictures of the fruit and vegetables in the market. I could spend days looking around and sampling. This is a great show. I think Dtr. is short for daughter.

Jim
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Jul 29, 2015 8:10 AM CST
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Name: Ursula
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Ah, thanks, and Bad Cannstadt is near Stuttgart. Interesting, Roberta! Smiling
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Jul 29, 2015 8:26 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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At one time in my (early) life, my mother thought I was destined to be a concert pianist. I had great hands, long fingers, and a strong work ethic. I took piano for four years but unfortunately, I had no talent! Sighing! Thank goodness, those three attributes are necessary to become a good dentist, so it all worked out.

I had sort of an odd mother. Equal to all other (necessary) things while growing up, Mom thought my sister and I should be exposed to the finer things in life. Not monetary things, since we were pretty poor, but culture. While at home and even in the car (AM radio of course), rather than listening to the popular music of the day (the heyday of rock and roll), we listened to 78's and then 33 and 1/3's classical music. When the Houston Symphony gave free concerts for public school children, Mom made sure we attended those concerts. I have perhaps 50 classical records and probably at least that many CD's and will always love classical music. I don't care a thing about most of the pop music out there, much of which to me is either vulgar or downright trash. I am odd! Whistling
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Jul 29, 2015 9:23 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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What wonderful pictures, Ursula and Leipzig is truly gorgeous. The display of lovely summer fruits would have been my favorite thing, though. Truly, when we travel it's tasting all the local foods of the area that is my thing. Mmm. Black currants.

Lucky for me I have an adventurous palate and a great immune system.
Elaine

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Jul 29, 2015 11:16 AM CST
Name: Melissa
Memphis, TN (Zone 8a)
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Ken,

You would likely have been poor. I have a degree in classical viola, but I gave it up because it was exhausting, I worked a gig every weekend, and I was poor all the time.

Now I can appreciate the music without having to live in poverty.
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Jul 29, 2015 11:20 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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You are probably right. Mom never considered the money aspect but wanted a pianist. She accepted me being a dentist though. Whistling
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 29, 2015 4:43 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
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Taking to the air -
sitting in back of the plane, I happily took some pictures of the beautiful countryside of Saxony near Leipzig.
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Jul 29, 2015 5:46 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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That was a wonderful flight! Thanks for taking us along. Hurray!

Jim
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Jul 29, 2015 7:49 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
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And tomorrow we can actually discuss Orchids here!! Smiling
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Jul 29, 2015 8:26 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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Whee ha, orchids! But flying around in a small plane is my idea of a lot of fun.
Elaine

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Jul 30, 2015 7:03 AM CST
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Name: Ursula
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Oh, it really was a blast!
Next -
on our way to Thuringia, where eventually the 75. Birthday celebrations will take place.
We stopped at Haus Schulenburg in Gera. This is a gorgeous mansion, designed by Henry Van de Velde and built around 1906 for the rich textile plant owner Paul Schulenburg. Since it was in the former East Germany it became home to a Nursing School. After the reunification of Germany it fell into decay and in 1996 a medical Dr. named Volker Kielstein started to rebuilt the place. It now houses exhibitions and meetings and weddings are held there.
Now the old mansion had greenhouses, Paul Schulenburg grew Orchids and there is actually a Blc Haus Schulenburg, named after him.

Before the Schulenburg house we stopped at another pretty place in Gera, I don't remember the name of this fancy Schloss
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Ok on to Haus Schulenburg!
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I always love the Dahlias, they grow so well in this climate, they never seem to flop over as they do around here.
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Jul 30, 2015 8:50 AM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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It must cost a pretty penny to maintain the old mansion and the gardens. I'm surprised the good doctor hasn't turned it all over to the government or at least to a large foundation.

Jim
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Jul 30, 2015 10:20 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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I wonder if they have a work force of volunteers to maintain those magnificent gardens, too. That again would be costly. I'd like to visit those gardens every month through the spring and summer. What a lovely show.

I really like the wall niches on the yellow Schloss with planters inside them. We all need places like that to plant! Those old pictures show a lot of greenhouses, plus a glass conservatory attached to the house. What a shame they didn't survive.
Elaine

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Jul 30, 2015 11:33 AM CST
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Name: Ursula
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My first thought was why not live in this bit of paradise? You should have seen some of the rooms, they were gorgeous and richly furnished. Why a museum, essentially ?
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Jul 30, 2015 11:52 AM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Taxes and maintenance costs would make it impossible to live there.

Jim
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Jul 30, 2015 1:08 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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A lot of the old estates in the UK still have the hereditary families living there, but they open the estate, outside of the private living areas, to the public and charge admission to support the upkeep. Don't know if the gov't also helps out to preserve the heritage properties, but it's possible.

Or they make a period drama like Highclere Castle/Downton Abbey and charge the TV folks admission. Even better! More people get to see it that way, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Elaine

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Jul 30, 2015 5:46 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
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Heh, Jeeves and Wooster was filmed there too? I used to enjoy that show.

The Schulenburg owner surely gets some money from lending the mansion to all sorts of occasions and you do pay for the tour also.
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Jul 30, 2015 6:27 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
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We knew there are numerous Orchids growing in Thuringia, especially near Saalfeld, since a family friend who was forester, gave me a book on the subject many years ago. We took a walk around the hill of GrossKochberg and we were not disappointed.
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Then walking up the hill we saw blooming spikes and tons of leaves of what I think is Cyp. calceolus. Whole hill sides were full of stands of those. We also saw plants with seed pods which looked a lot like our Epipactis helleborines. Perhaps those are indeed Epipactis species.
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taking a wild guess, these are perhaps Orchis species?
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I think these two last ones are probably Gymnadenia conopsea
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I wish I had better close ups, but it was quite windy and things were wiggling.
As we were walking along the path, I could get every so often a glimpse into the scenery below.
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These Cyp clumps must have been spectacular in May when they were in full bloom!!
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Jul 30, 2015 6:30 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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What a beautiful place that is!

Jim
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Jul 30, 2015 6:49 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
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There is a good reason I love our place in Pennsy so much, it reminds us of Thuringia where we both grew up. Smiling

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