You gave a very good example of what those abbreviations mean. I just hope I can remember them.

frostweed said:Well, you lost me, but if you say I am wrong then I probably am, I guess we can't be right all the time, sorry

I still have that right?
I wouldn't say that,
you were right

frostweed said:I think it is Rudbeckia fulgida, http://plants.usda.gov/java/la...

and I doubted

bamira said:find a plant that has these stunted leaves
I don't think that it is Rudbeckia, leaves has a stem
Rudbeckia leaves not stem, leaves on the base taper

ctcarol said:You gave a very good example of what those abbreviations mean. I just hope I can remember them.

the shorter abbreviation, the lower the degree of

Now that the plant has a name is it ok to ask on this thread about transplanting? I'd wait until dormancy this fall. Do you think it would survive a moving?

Here in MD, rudbeckia is extremely robust and would most definitely survive being transplanted.

Thank you, Catmint, for your advice. I will give it a try. A few blooms are opening, but it sure is not the robust plant I am used to.