Where did I get that the registered name goes back in the pool? Maybe that was the way it was done back in the day? Hmmmmm....

I thought so too, Greg. I must have read it somewhere in one of my iris books.

No, I think it's been that way since the Society was formed. In Effect, you actually are registering the name, rather than the iris. There are many cases (as Kent pointed out) where a "new" hybridizer petitions for the "release" of a name, registered years ago. And, as he also mentioned, if "all stock was destroyed", it was never a "parent", and was never "introduced to commerce", the name can then be released, for re-registration.
When the AIS was first founded, one of the things they were trying to do, was get to a point where there was only "one name, one iris", as the way things "used to be" anyone could call anything, whatever they chose to....and that resulted in there being several different cultivars being sold under just "one name'.......very hard for the buying public to get what they wanted, and very confusing for everyone.

grannysgarden said:I thought so too, Greg. I must have read it somewhere in one of my iris books.

You may be conflating reserving a name with registering an iris. If you reserve a name, you have to use it on a registration within three years or it becomes available again and, even if no one else used it, you would have to pay an additional $15 to get it back. Once you register an iris, though, it's yours. After that, there is no requirement to introduce it within a certain time period, although it's probably in a person's interest to do it sooner rather than later.

There are hundreds of irises in the registry from the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's that, as far as I can tell, were never introduced.

There is a process by which those names can be released (you can see that in the registry too). For example, Keith Keppel has an iris called Royal Majesty (Tall Bearded Iris (Iris 'Royal Majesty')) . That name was originally used by Steve Moldovan for an iris he registered in 1966. Like I said, I don't have the first clue what all you'd have to go through to make it happen.

Thanks Kent! This is exactly what I was "remembering". Sorry for the confusion.

I think it is a bad idea to repeat names that were used in the past; especially names less than 50 yrs old as they is a very good chance there are still lots of it (Moldovan's in this case) around.

Thank you for the clarification. I should talk less and read more. smiles How hard is it to get an iris name claimed or set aside for your iris? Does a board make decisions or someone at the AIS? A hybridizer mentioned last month that they had turned in everything for an iris they want to intro and they hope to get the name they have chosen. I know you can't use names already taken, names of living people without their written consent, names of dead people without waiting a certain period of time (three years, ten years, have to look that one up??). Not that I have an iris or am planning to register one but I am curious if there is someone who has tried to register an iris and they couldn't because the name was silly, inappropriate, controversial, etc. Any ideas?

Misawa77 said:Thanks Kent! This is exactly what I was "remembering". Sorry for the confusion.

I think it is a bad idea to repeat names that were used in the past; especially names less than 50 yrs old as they is a very good chance there are still lots of it (Moldovan's in this case) around.

I probably didn't do a good job explaining, but I'd assume Steve Moldovan's 'Royal Majesty' was never introduced, there is none of it around, there hasn't been any of it around for a very long time, and there were probably some other requirements that had to met before the name was released.

grannysgarden said: How hard is it to get an iris name claimed or set aside for your iris? Does a board make decisions or someone at the AIS?

It's pretty easy, you just send a completed registration form for each seedling you want to register, or a list of names you want to reserve, to the AIS Registar (currently John Jones) along with $15 per registration form/name. He'll let you know if the names were accepted or not. That's about all there is to it.

Wow, I'm really surprised they don't make you send some sort of pictures from multiple years of blooms. I seriously figured there was way more to it.

Well, producing an seedling that's actually worth registering is an entirely different thing.....

Once you have one, the paperwork shouldn't be all that arduous, really.

They are asking for photos now, but it is not required.

Well,, Maybe some great news to come! This is from my email this morning from Barry blyth! Let's keep our fingers crossed! This would be awesome to be able to direct import!

"Hi Jen,
Our new catalogue will be out in early October and I will air mail you a copy then.
We hope to have a cheaper alternative for shipping to US this year and are waiting on a bit more information.
Already we can cut down on the cost of the phytosanitary certificate which was $100.00 per order and the need also for you to get an import permit.
This we have already bypassed and now we are looking for cheaper freight. Not sure about that yet.
The information will be included with the catalogue when it is finalised. "

Good news!

Very good news!

Agreed!!

Jan -- what's your new avatar????

If any Tempo Two group order goes out please let me know because there are some of his medians I am dying to get.

Barry sent me catalogs two years in a row which are both now in shreds from overuse. I could never afford to order. I now download his catalogs to pour over. That is really good news that there may be hope for at least a group order or a more reasonable price for shipping and phyto.

Leslie, I will let you know for sure. He said he would email me when he got all the final information.

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Mary Ann , it's Daughter of Stars, blooming right now -
with a total of 7 blooms and buds !

I might have known -- I love that Iris!!!