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Oct 20, 2015 9:18 AM CST
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Name: Sandi
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I've seen a few very large rosemarys dying back here in Austin. I think the unusual rains we've had may have contributed to their demise. I also had a huge one out front for years. I started "taking care of it" by regularly watering it. It looked like it had been burned along the stems and eventually died.
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Oct 20, 2015 11:02 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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Cameron, can you post a photograph or two?
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Oct 20, 2015 7:10 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
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Here's a picture of the leaves. Thumbs up
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Oct 26, 2015 7:24 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Cameron, I am sorry--I saw the images right after you posted them, got distracted immediately after, then forgot. *Blush*

I rarely, if ever, give water to the Rosemary and it thrives. The shrub will look like that sometimes, usually after a lot of rain--or after temperatures drop below 25 degrees. We know it ain't that cold Hilarious! , so you could try cutting back on the water. Although, with the weekend we just had, that might be a little difficult to accomplish. Sad
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Oct 26, 2015 8:49 AM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
It's alright Debra Thumbs up I was so afraid of underwatering this Summer because they're in unamended clay soil. They wilted a couple of times this Summer so I flooded the soil thinking it would loosen up the clay and get to the roots. This past weekend was bad but I'm thankful we didn't get 21" Sad
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Oct 26, 2015 8:53 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Me, too. Can you imaging living around Corsicana? They seem to always catch the brunt of bad weather.

The yard is looking pitiful after this summer, but if you are back in my area next Spring, you should stop by. I am home most of the time now and I have a TON of new Iris that should be blooming. Thumbs up
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Oct 26, 2015 8:57 AM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
They do seem to get a lot of bad weather in Corsicana. Seems like they got tons of rain in Summer? My yard looked extremely bad in Summer even my drought tolerant plants looked bad. I'd love to see all of the pretty irises in your garden. I have one reblooming now. Thumbs up
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Oct 26, 2015 9:10 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Yes, they had 10+ inches of rain over a couple of days in May. That area is pummeled by fierce thunderstorms and high winds, too. Feel badly for them, and feel glad I am in Garland. Shrug!
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Oct 26, 2015 9:14 AM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I wonder if it's the nearby reservoir that enhances the rainfall there? I definitely feel bad for them. Sad We go from one extreme to the next.
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Oct 26, 2015 10:36 AM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
I found this article about how to grow rosemary that mentions growing the plant in containers vs in the ground, which I have found makes a difference in many plants:

http://stokesfarm.com/how-to-g...

My theory, please note I have not researched this, is that a plant that needs to spread its roots to seek water has differentiated the roots so that the fine roots are genetically programmed to absorb water and nutrients and send them back to the larger roots to be sent up to the top growth. In a container, there is less room for these roots to develop, so there are fewer of them to do the work, thus the need for more water.

Think of a tree. It is not the large branches or trunk that provides food for the tree, but it is the leaves and needles which use photosynthesis to create food to send back to the tree and feed the roots.

As to why a large plant would die off, it could be that it is a short lived plant or it needs a rejuvenation prune. In many plants the older canes/branches become less efficient over time. In a way you could say they have arterial sclerosis. Nutrients and moisture do not move through the older wood as efficiently as it moves through younger wood.

I can't comment on how cold hardy the plant may be, but I can say that it cannot do without light for even one day before it starts to fail. For me, that means, if it snows, I have to go out and shake the snow off of the plant.

Smiles,
Lyn
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Oct 26, 2015 11:49 AM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
Thanks for that link Lyn. I used to keep mine clipped because I was constantly using it in various dishes. I held off on cutting it this year because the leaves are looking so ugly. Maybe I need to give it a good clipping again?
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Oct 26, 2015 12:12 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Don't think it will hurt the plant, Cameron.
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Oct 26, 2015 12:28 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
I am going to quote one of my favorite rose authors here, Jack Harkness, because I think it applies to many plants. It's from his book Roses

"Pruning is considered a mysterious art: Just remind yourself that nature did it for countless years with the crudest of tools, namely frost, fire and the teeth of animals. Frost froze immature growth; fire burnt old wood; animals ate tender shoots, causing them to break into several growths where otherwise there was only one, and that probably a lanky one"

I think you can't go far wrong following nature's example.

Smiles,
Lyn
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Oct 26, 2015 1:05 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I guess I'll give it a haircut then? Thumbs up I wonder if I could still cook with the ugly leaves? Hilarious!
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Oct 26, 2015 1:12 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
Allen ....

I don't know about cooking with it ... Big Grin

And I don't know the proper timing of a rejuvenation prune for rosemary. In roses, it is usually done as the plant is coming out of dormancy. The rule of thumb is to take some of the old wood out at the base of the plant to encourage new wood to grow every year or so ... it depends on the rose.

The process leaves you with a more vigorous plant and a more long-lived plant. You are imitating fire.

Since I don't know your climate, I don't know if this is the right time for the haircut, either.

Smiles,
Lyn
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Oct 26, 2015 1:24 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I'll do more research on when to prune rosemary in my climate. My rosemary bushes are still kind of small, maybe around 2 ft. tall and 3 ft. wide.
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Oct 26, 2015 1:52 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
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I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.

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