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Nov 24, 2015 8:39 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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DavidLMO said: Rolling on the floor laughing

Imaging Melanie looking at cats and shouting very Natashsesque "You vill tekk me to yurh comradds!!"
And visitor Rolling my eyes. and saying WT?

hehe


nodding nodding Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Nov 24, 2015 12:57 PM CST
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Fortunately, we have the Ren Fest coming up in February and it's held on MOSI property right next to the museum. Those folks make me seem totally normal by comparison. I can't speak in old English, anyway. It's a little weird walking around the gardens and hearing canon fire followed by "Huzzah!" but you get used to it.

I got a few pictures when I was out feeding the Io Moths just now. It's really windy outside! Not used to that being so far inland. A Gulf Frit was laying eggs on my Passion Vine. Then, I'm not sure if it was the same one, but it was basking in the grass.

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Still a lot of Long-Tailed Skippers including one couple where the male was trying pretty hard but she didn't seem interested.

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In sad news, one of the Io Moths didn't make it. I thought maybe it was pupating and just looked weird, but I poked it with a stick and it was dead. Thumbs down In better news, all but three have pupated now.
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Nov 24, 2015 1:18 PM CST
Name: Danita
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Well, Melanie, if anyone tells you that you are crazy for talking to the caterpillars, just ask them when was the last time they talked to the images on their television during a football game. That looks pretty darn silly, too. Hilarious!
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Nov 24, 2015 2:09 PM CST
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Good point, Danita! I talk to the TV, too. I like to yell at the commercials. At least it makes whoever has the remote mute them that much faster!
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Nov 25, 2015 12:14 PM CST
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mellielong said:My favorite thing to do when I find a caterpillar is shout demands that he lead me to his comrades. Pretend I'm back in the Soviet era and I'm the interrogator. You gotta have fun where you can get it in this world.


Yep, gotta take your chuckles where you find them!
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Nov 25, 2015 12:19 PM CST
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mellielong said:Good point, Danita! I talk to the TV, too. I like to yell at the commercials. At least it makes whoever has the remote mute them that much faster!


I've lived alone for a LOOOOOONG time.
I talk to everything.
Including myself.
Some say that's ok as long as you don't answer yourself.
One time, at work, I was thinking something out and the only part that came out of my mouth was:
"...and then again..."
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Nov 26, 2015 10:40 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Happy Thanksgiving! I'm just going to drop a little butterfly cartoon I saw on Facebook today. Hope it makes you giggle!

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Nov 26, 2015 10:54 AM CST
Name: Danita
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Cute! Hilarious!

In the Swallowtail version...
"Mom, he stuck his osmeterium out at me!!!

Happy Thanksgiving! Big Grin
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Nov 26, 2015 11:05 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Danita, you should write captions for cartoons! I like your "Swallowtail version"!
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Nov 26, 2015 12:24 PM CST
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Hilarious!
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Nov 26, 2015 12:46 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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mellielong said:Danita, you should write captions for cartoons! I like your "Swallowtail version"!

I agree


Happy Thanksgiving every one! Smiling
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Nov 26, 2015 2:04 PM CST
Name: Margaret
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Cute cartoon Melanie. Hilarious!

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
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Nov 26, 2015 9:23 PM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
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I agree
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Nov 28, 2015 10:39 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
All right, folks! I have survived online shopping, a turkey coma, and some real shopping! The real shopping (at Barnes & Noble) was actually easier than the online shopping (Walmart.com). I bought three things at Walmart.com and it took me an hour and twenty minutes to check out. FYI, I was buying stuff for the kids at Joshua House. I did buy myself this awesome butterfly book: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/... It's half off, and if you use the code 30BFRIDAY you can still get 30% off that! I bought an extra copy to give to the gals at MOSI.

Speaking of MOSI, I stopped by there yesterday before I went to Barnes and Noble. I volunteered to come in so the girls could take a few days off. Because I'm nice like that. And while I was there, you know I took some pictures.

I had a pair of Monarchs. I also recaptured one that escaped into the outer enclosure. Rolling my eyes.

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Still plenty of Zebra Longwings. They're usually one of the first ones to fly in the morning - in captivity and outside. Usually, the smaller butterflies like the Skippers are first and the larger butterflies like the Swallowtails are last. I figured it had to do with surface area of the wings and getting enough solar energy to warm up the whole body. Zebra Longwings throw a kink in my theory, though. I wonder if the shape of their wings is more conducive to generating heat? Or maybe since they eat pollen they have more energy to use toward heating their bodies? Lots of questions to ponder.

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I got there early, around 8 am and it was about 65 degrees. Things heated up quickly, though!

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I released a lot of Malachites. Most of the ones already in the flight cage were still pretending to be leaves. I told them I wanted to be back in bed, too.

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I got to release a couple of White Peacocks.

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We don't have as many Julias, but they're still around.

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In sad news, I went to release a Long-Tailed Skipper, and though he was fully formed, he was on his last legs. I was afraid maybe he had been overlooked and was starving, so I tried placing him on a flower. I read that when butterflies land on a flower, blood pressure forces their proboscis to unfurl. But his didn't. I took some photos, though so you could at least see what they look like up close. Alas, I put him in the lab to be a specimen for the boss.

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In happier news, here's a Malachite I released. See how floppy their wings are when they're new?

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I found a Polydamas caterpillar outside.

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And here's one of the Spotted Oleander Moth caterpillars I found over the last two weeks.

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That's it for the fun post; my next post will be the educational one and will show you a little of what I do at the museum.
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Nov 28, 2015 11:19 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
By the way, the ladies at MOSI are about the same age as me (mid to late 30's) so they're getting to that age where they're really feeling the physical changes in their bodies. That was another reason I wanted to let them have a long weekend off. In fact, MOSI is usually open every day except Christmas, but they actually closed for Thanksgiving this year. I was pretty surprised. I started volunteering in 2008 which was two years before I became disabled, but even then it was still a physical challenge - and I don't even do the gardening part! I just tend the butterflies. But seeing as how I had a desk job, it was nice to be active and outside every Sunday, but I certainly wasn't used to a physical job.

My main job is to take care of the living creatures which pretty much means the butterflies and caterpillars (the turtles and fish take care of themselves). I'm sure I've offended people by telling them not to touch the butterflies, but tough. Once, I had a Monarch caterpillar out and I was letting kids hold it. One lady had a bunch of kids with her (children and friends, I think) and wanted me to get them each a caterpillar for them to hold so she could take a picture and I had to tell her no. I'm only one person and I don't like to have more than one caterpillar out because I can't keep my eyes on more than one. My bosses are really good about backing me up - they actually think I'm way more patient and nicer to people than they are. But then again, I only have to deal with this once a week. If it was Monday through Friday, year after year, I'd probably lose my patience, too. And honestly, I don't have to take the caterpillars out of the lab. That's a special thing I do for the guests as long as they're not being jerks.

I forgot to post one of my caterpillar pictures. We keep each species in its own aquarium with a screen lid to keep them from escaping. If we have a lot of one species, we split them into several tanks, usually based on size. Sometimes, species that use the same host plants get mixed together. For example, I was talking a picture of this huge Julia caterpillar and you can see a Zebra Longwing cat sneaked in there with it.

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Quite a few of you on here raise butterflies so you know it's not all sunshine and rainbows. We get a lot of guests who think this is the "best job ever" which my boss likes to use as a hashtag when she's posting about some of the crazy stuff she ends up doing. One thing she made clear when I started was that I would have to be able to euthanize butterflies that weren't going to make it. And I have to do that most weeks. Here are a couple of Malachites that came out wrong. The one in my hand actually didn't make it out of its chrysalis, but when I went to take the picture, he fell out from the force of me moving him.

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I've said this before, but I euthanize them by cutting their heads off. It's quick and better than starving to death or getting eaten alive. Sometimes, you have chrysalises that don't form right and we throw those away. You can see this Malachite chrysalis has weird grooves in it. That's not going to turn out normal.

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So my main jobs are feeding the caterpillars and freeing the hostages. That's what I call releasing the butterflies. It kind of goes with my "lead me to your comrades" theme. My favorite thing to do is go out in the garden and find more caterpillars. I like to think I'm pretty good at it.

Once the caterpillars make their chrysalis, we pin them in our chrysalis boxes. The wall looks like this from inside the lab. We post little pictures of which butterfly they turn into so the guests on the other side can see. Guests are not allowed in the lab.

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It's best if the caterpillar attaches to part of the plant, but sometimes they make their chrysalis on the screen of the lid or the side of the glass. Then, you have to pin the silk. This is why I get mad at caterpillars that don't make a lot of silk. (I'm looking at you White Peacocks.) This is a Malachite chrysalis I pinned yesterday. We use double-sided tape to put the styrofoam squares on top. Kids are always asking me what the "yellow dots" are and I'm like, "Have you never seen a straight pin?" I also have to emphasize that we pin the silk; if you stick a pin in a chrysalis, you will kill it. For chrysalises that don't make a lot of silk (now I'm looking at you, White butterflies), we tend to throw them in a mesh pop-up. They can get their feet in the mesh and pull themselves free so it works out. And sometimes we accidentally pull the silk loose so there's nothing to pin. Then, they also go in the mesh pop-ups.

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And then we wait for the butterfly to emerge. Some guests get lucky and see it happen through the window. If I'm there, I'll bring it outside so they can see up close. We also run low on lids at times, so you can see we have double occupancy in the boxes. I wouldn't do it with Swallowtails, but most of the butterflies don't seem to mind. We generally let them chill in the lab until their wings are dry before we release them into the flight cage.

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So hopefully you learned a little more about what I do and some of the downsides of butterfly raising. The important thing to remember is that butterflies only have a a success rate of about 1-2% in the wild, and unless you get some kind of disease outbreak, you're most likely going to do way better than that. I'll be back at MOSI tomorrow, so expect some more photos!
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Nov 28, 2015 11:45 AM CST
Name: David Laderoute
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Nov 28, 2015 1:02 PM CST
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mellielong said:
In sad news, I went to release a Long-Tailed Skipper, and though he was fully formed, he was on his last legs. I was afraid maybe he had been overlooked and was starving, so I tried placing him on a flower. I read that when butterflies land on a flower, blood pressure forces their proboscis to unfurl. But his didn't. I took some photos, though so you could at least see what they look like up close. Alas, I put him in the lab to be a specimen for the boss.

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RIP little Long-Tailed Skipper.
You were a beautiful little thing!
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Nov 28, 2015 1:31 PM CST
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Well, I wasn't planning on taking more pictures, but...

First things first, I walked outside and saw part of a Gulf Frit wing on the pavers.

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The reason I was outside is that I went in my room and noticed a Black Swallowtail had emerged. Apparently, overwintering is optional this year. I'm blaming El Nino. By the way, this is a male Black ST.

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And I have tons of Long-Tailed Skippers. They're too fast on the porterweed, but this one on the Pentas had to stop and slurp longer. Must be the way the flowers are constructed.

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Nov 29, 2015 10:42 AM CST
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
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Melanie, that was very informative about what you do at MOSI, thank you, also great photos! Thumbs up
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Nov 29, 2015 2:07 PM CST
Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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I agree Thank you Melanie. I always enjoy your butterfly and larva reports and all the pretty pictures.
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