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Nov 26, 2015 8:15 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
@Horntoad: do you know of something you bought that isn't showing up in your bought list? If so, please tell me what it was and who was offering it.
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Nov 26, 2015 8:26 AM CST
Name: Alana H
SE Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Greenhouse Hibiscus Seed Starter Container Gardener Keeper of Poultry Rabbit Keeper
Frogs and Toads Dog Lover Plant and/or Seed Trader Annuals Bee Lover Butterflies
I removed Pavonia hastata from THIS swap. It is still in my master list as private and unavailable, which is how I removed all of the ones that seem to be missing now. It does not show up in my sold list anymore. Only ones I have left available to the swap are showing up.

I also note that the total number "sold" has not changed since I removed those several items, although there are a few items that were dibbed after I deleted the zeroed out varieties. One of those is Glottiddium vesicarium, syn Sesbania vesicaria, Bagpod, which is still available although there are none remaining.
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Nov 26, 2015 8:31 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Ok that helps. Horntoad has dibs on your Pavonia hastata.

And sure enough, it's not showing up on his bought page. Ok, I have everything I need to fix this bug. Thank you for your help!! Thumbs up
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Nov 26, 2015 8:36 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
The bug should be fixed and all deleted items should still now appear in your dibs page, if you previously dibbed it.
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Nov 26, 2015 8:46 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
The number that my "view your bought list" shows and the actual number of items in the list are now the same... I never would have even noticed the discrepancy, except I typed up a document with my "incoming seeds" and was checking to see if I had missed anything. Smiling
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Nov 26, 2015 9:53 AM CST
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Tip Photographer Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Hibiscus
Sorry I didn't get back to you Dave. I had to go in to work for about 4 1/2 hours at 5am today, I have to go back at 2pm and work until 11pm tonight. It looks like you fixed it. Everything that was missing seems to be back now, thanks.
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Nov 26, 2015 2:34 PM CST
Name: Kim
Iowa (Zone 5a)
I kill ornamentals... on purpose.
Enjoys or suffers cold winters Spiders! Critters Allowed Birds Houseplants I helped beta test the first seed swap
Region: Nebraska Keeper of Poultry Rabbit Keeper Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Procrastinator Garden Ideas: Level 2
wildflowers said:
My one suggestion is about the tickets, this morning I have over 113 tickets to spend and I'm sure I won't be using them all, if any more. I don't know how my ticket count compares to others, but I'm thinking maybe at some point in the swap, the ticket window can close. Or, maybe it could be stretched out like the dibbs, collecting tickets every other day or something like that? Just a thought. Although now that I'm writing this I'm thinking, maybe it's not so bad to have so many tickets, I might be more likely to want what I can't have than what I can. Hilarious! *Blush* or, if it were to cut off at 100 or something like that, I might be more inclined to keep looking for more seeds to get to my limit.

Thank you, Dave, for putting together such an amazing feature.



This morning, I was thinking about the extra tickets. I do not know if the system would allow this, but could they possibly be made like Acorns, where we can gift them to people. An example would be someone in a swap wants to merely give seed, not planning on getting anything. The tickets are very precious early on in a swap and someone might mention in a post they want whatever thing, but have no more tickets. Could then others be able to then give that person one or more of their own?

>> Confessing my seedaholic tendencies. *Blush*

I guess I have more of this than I thought... Yesterday I picked out a popcorn. Now I have to look into pollination times, if I want to save this seed, to make sure this would not get cross- pollinated with field corn. At least if the neighbors rotate, then the closest corn would be about a half mile or more away next year.
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Nov 26, 2015 3:22 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Well, the idea with the tickets is that it's designed so that near the end of the swap, you have so much that it's basically an unlimited amount. This ensures that you get every single item you care to receive. You could potentially end the swap with hundreds of tickets. At the end of the swap, they all disappear.

Right now everyone has a lot of tickets so there's no need to donate them anywhere.

I'd rather not make them transferable for many reasons...
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Nov 26, 2015 5:59 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I agree with not transferring the tickets; as Dave said, by later in a swap it shouldn't be necessary, and early in a swap the idea is to give everyone an equal chance to get some things high on their wish list.

If anything, I would suggest at some point... perhaps by the time everyone has acquired 50 tickets or so... that there is a temporary halt to getting any more to give members who might have kind of fallen behind to catch up. On the other hand, this idea comes from my experience last year in the Piggy Swap, which was my first experience in a group swap, and the method there of "calling dibs" is much different than with this very automated system, which really requires very little online time to call dibs on the seeds that you have enough tickets for. So, although that had been a thought I had earlier in the swap, at this point I don't really think it's necessary.

Also, for anyone who removed some of their items and is feeling bad about screwing stuff up... I think it's a really good thing that happened; how else would Dave have known he needed to fix it?? This IS a beta test, after all Smiling
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Nov 26, 2015 8:21 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Weedwhacker said:Also, for anyone who removed some of their items and is feeling bad about screwing stuff up... I think it's a really good thing that happened; how else would Dave have known he needed to fix it?? This IS a beta test, after all Smiling


This is so true. If there's a chance to break the system, I want it broken during this beta. Smiling I really would like it to be working 100% for the future non-beta swaps.
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Nov 28, 2015 8:55 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
@Dave -- I believe I've found another discrepancy for you to look at. On the main page for the swap, where it says "access your wish list," the count for mine shows as 51, but the list itself only has 46 items. When I looked at my "bought" list (where the count is now correct at 50), all the items have stars and should be on my wish list, so I compared the 2 lists and the 4 items that aren't on the wish list were, I'm pretty sure, ones that were involved with being removed. The 5th missing item I think is one that I had starred but was gone before I got to it.

these are the items on my bought list that are missing from the wish list:
Amaranthus 'Molten Fire' (luvsgrtdanes)
Runner bean 'Sunset' (luvsgrt danes)
Parsley, Curley (luvsgrtdanes)
Tithonia, 'Red Torch' (poisondartfrog)

Hope that helps! Smiling
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Nov 28, 2015 8:58 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Thanks for this report!

When someone deleted (or makes unavailable) an item, it will not show up in your wishlist anymore. This is different from your dibs list which will continue to show items regardless of what the seller did.

The bug is that it still has the counts shown on the main page that is including the remaining ones.

I'll be looking at this, and fixing it.
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Nov 28, 2015 9:01 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
That was the issue. I've fixed it now. The numbers on the main page now reflect the correct actual number of wishlist items still available.
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Nov 28, 2015 9:07 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
That may have set a new speed record for "fixing" ! Big Grin
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Nov 30, 2015 2:02 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Dave is good AND fast!

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That packing list is very handy.
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Nov 30, 2015 6:41 PM CST
Name: Ronnie (Veronica)
Southeastern PA (Zone 6b)
Count your blessings, be grateful
Region: Ukraine Organic Gardener Keeps Goats Zinnias Dog Lover Morning Glories
Annuals Bee Lover Dragonflies Butterflies Hummingbirder Birds
The resemblance is amazing Hilarious!
Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see.
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Nov 30, 2015 7:45 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I like the wizard image better. Smiling

In other news, 8 of you have already marked your packages are sent, and most if you included tracking numbers. Very cool!!
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Nov 30, 2015 8:25 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Let there be Seed Swaps!

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(Or was it that other one with orange hair? Whistling )
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Nov 30, 2015 8:40 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
The estimated delivery date for my package said Dec. 4, but don't hold your breath on that one... for some reason, anywhere in the south seems to be uphill from here, when it comes to the USPS ! Rolling my eyes.
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