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Mar 22, 2016 2:52 PM CST
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Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Lucy, I see two, tiny green shoots coming from the underside of the rhizome.....so, I'm HOPING that it makes it ! Several others that I *thought* were completely rotted are doing the same thing, so.....maybe!
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Mar 22, 2016 3:10 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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Hurray!
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Mar 22, 2016 3:14 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Buccaneer's Prize. Have thought several times over the two years since planting it was gone and it continues to hang in there. Photograph is from yesterday. Smiling

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Mar 22, 2016 7:00 PM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
Birds Herbs Irises Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
I will give a reminder here in a few months.
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Mar 22, 2016 8:57 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Arlyn, it isn't the fastest grower, but dainty flower. Not even our pumilas are doing very much here. But then it is March & we never see much action until April.
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Mar 23, 2016 7:23 AM CST
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Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Last year, the first reticulate bloomed on March 26th, this year it was March 16th..10 days earlier....my "earliest" bearded (also a pumila...I think!) bloomed on April 12 th, and I'm thinking , from the way the plant looks, it will be earlier than last year, as well. What really gives me pause, though, is that last year, things were almost two weeks earlier than they were in '14, and '13 Sticking tongue out ! And, last fall, the rebloomers went almost three weeks longer than ever before, before a freeze stopped them......my season is getting longer, and longer....with less "down time" between *finish* and *start*......could this be a factor in my "goner" problem ?
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Mar 23, 2016 12:56 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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That's the problem Arlyn, there are just so many variables that it's hard to know what is causing the issues.
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Mar 23, 2016 1:09 PM CST
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Arlyn, how awful! I'm sorry to hear about the rot that is devastating your plants.
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Mar 27, 2016 4:33 PM CST
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Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Yesterday, I marked out an area (actually two), and sprayed roundup to kill the grass...when it's dead, I'll till it ,and rake out the dead *sods*, and then I'll have a "temporary" iris bed (and a "dedicated" bed for the AB's). Once that's done, I'm going to start moving some plants (the ones that, obviously, aren't going to bloom this year, and , after the others bloom, they will be moved into it, as well. That will *empty out* the "most affected" bed, so I can try *solarization*....... Crossing Fingers!
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Mar 27, 2016 4:37 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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Sounds like a good plan, Arlyn. Thumbs up
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Mar 27, 2016 4:38 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
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I agree
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Mar 28, 2016 9:44 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Okay - I need advise from all of you. My second bloom of Little Stitches opened and half the flower was eaten. I opened the flower up, and there inside was a little pink worm, which for all the world looked like an iris borer to me. I have checked the rest of the plant and it is solid. No streaked or marked leaves. Just one hole at the base of the bud. So my question is how the world did it get there? This is a brand new bed, with all new soil, and a brand new rhizome sent early last September. All the rhizomes in this entire bed are newly planted. This one is surrounded by rhizomes from vendors.

Furthermore, I do not live in a region where borers are common.

So did the egg/s come in on one of the new iris rhizomes?

Should I dig it up?

I don't see any streaked leaves, or yellowing middle leaves, or nibbled edges on any of my iris. I have seen two iris borers ever before this. Both came in rhizomes I got from trade boxes, and both were found while the iris was still potted, not planted.
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Mar 28, 2016 9:50 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
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I don't know how to advise, Leslie. That is scary. Isn't it early for the borers? Do they eat the blossoms? I always heard they enter the leaves, travel down inside them and go through the rhizome. Can you position yourself where the iris is between you and the sunlight and look through the leaves for dark spots? Or hold a bright flashlight against it so you can see inside? My only thought is to capture the worm and hustle right down to the County Extension Office and freak out!
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Mar 28, 2016 9:56 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I don't think an iris borer at this time of the year would be any more then a tiny mite of a thing, and I've never seen one in a bloom. Take a picture of it and send it to a university for identification.
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Mar 28, 2016 9:57 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Well the worm that was nestled right in the base of the bloom has been squished. And it was already big and fat, but only less than an inch long.

I would think it is very early for one to be so large???
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Mar 28, 2016 9:58 AM CST
Name: Pam
Pennsylvania
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Leslie Iris borers usually do their damage to the rhizome of the plant and late in the season. I would guess that if you have a worm in the flower it is something else. You could check the plant leaves to see if there is any indication of iris borer activity. They tunnel down the leaves to reach the rhizome. They can be squished inside the leaves to kill them. Yucky, but effective.

I treat the iris beds here with Bayer Grub control on the early spring to help stop the pests.

Good luck!
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Mar 28, 2016 9:59 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Needless to say, now that it has finally quit raining, I will be spraying the garden with Bayer grub killer.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Mar 28, 2016 10:03 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I should add, I treat my gardens every year with grub killer, because there are grubs in the yard.

The leaves are all really nice. I was surprised to see it in the flower. I have been reading up on borers and some of the literature says they will eat the flowers on their journey to the rhizome, but this guy is large for the season. Do they grow fast? We have had spells of really warm weather and he could have started early.

Also, I never saw any eggs on the leaves and I have been fussing in the gardens for weeks now.
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Mar 28, 2016 10:07 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
Garden Ideas: Master Level Dragonflies Bulbs Garden Art Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Gardens in Buckets
If he was fat maybe he was too big to tunnel down the leaves.?. I don't know but it is scary.
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Mar 28, 2016 10:38 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Whatever it is (was), a dose of the Bayer will take care of them. The *active* in their "Long Season Grub Control" is a systemic....so, whatever takes a bite (or gets the pollen....like the honey bees) is going to die.
The iris borer has an interesting life cycle, and, when the egg hatches, the little b******s eat fast and grow quickly ! It's too early, here, for them to be around, but, I'm not sure about where you live. I think it's all related to soil temperature.....at the correct" time, the adult moth comes out of the soil, flies to an iris leaf, and lays his (her !) egg. Then the little worm starts his way down the iris, eating, and growing, as he goes (they are canibalistic, so, they eat any of their little brothers and sisters that are on that same plant !....survival of the fittest !)and, when he reaches the rhizome , and has eaten his fill, he crawls into the soil, pupates, and the cycle starts again. It is possible that an egg....or even a borer....was hitching a ride on a shipped in plant, but, I would think it more likely that, if it WAS an iris borer, he was "locally grown".

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