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Mar 23, 2016 11:26 AM CST
Name: aud/odd
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Assorted cuttings from last summer.
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Fred Ives
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Gift from Gorden.....I cannot wait until they blooms
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more assortments
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Mar 23, 2016 11:31 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Cinta, those are very lovely Lovey dubby
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Mar 23, 2016 1:27 PM CST
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Name: vee
Pasadena, CA (Zone 10a)
I haven't Tarev....I just looked it up!! I cannot believe I've never heard of this place. Thank you! I'm totally going to check it out!
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Mar 23, 2016 1:29 PM CST
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Name: vee
Pasadena, CA (Zone 10a)
Yes, very lovely, Cinta!! Love that Fred Ives and the orange in your assortments!
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Mar 23, 2016 1:36 PM CST
Name: tarev
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Post photos when you go there vee! I have not been there too! That's okay, I Iived before in SoCal and never been there either, only recently that I am into more succulents and drought tolerant plants that I came to know of it. One of these days will try to visit that too if ever I head down SoCal. Smiling
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Mar 23, 2016 1:47 PM CST
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Also speaking of Pasadena, both the Huntington Gardens and the LA Arboretum are quite close to there... both worth a visit of several hours. The Huntington Desert Garden is mind blowingly awesome.



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Mar 23, 2016 4:25 PM CST
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Name: vee
Pasadena, CA (Zone 10a)
Tarev, after looking over the site, I realized I have driven past Cali Cactus Center quite a few times and always thought about checking it out. I will totally take pictures when I go.

Baja, yes - both of those places are amazing. If you ever go to the arboretum, watch out for the peacocks! The place is filled with them, along with the homes nearby. When I drive to my sister in law's, who lives minutes away, I have to make frequent stops because they run the town! Its amazing to see though. The males are so beautiful with their huge feathers and the mamas walk around with their little herd of babies. hehe (:
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Mar 23, 2016 4:49 PM CST
Name: tarev
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Vee, have you also tried visiting Getty Center, I love their cactus garden there. No plants for sale, but that museum is always fun for me to visit.

If you happen to pass by Torrance, swing by Rainforest Flora: http://www.rainforestflora.com... - for tillandsias and bromeliads, easy enough to grow and put anywhere in the house.

One more area I did not get to see yet is Lotusland in Sta. Barbara. http://www.lotusland.org/explo...... another one on my list of places to visit Big Grin
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Mar 23, 2016 6:21 PM CST
Name: James
Tucson, Arizona (Zone 9b)
V33JG said:............... If you ever go to the arboretum, watch out for the peacocks! The place is filled with them, along with the homes nearby. When I drive to my sister in law's, who lives minutes away, I have to make frequent stops because they run the town! Its amazing to see though. The males are so beautiful with their huge feathers and the mamas walk around with their little herd of babies. hehe (:

That certainly brings back memories for me. The CSSA used to hold what they then billed as annual National Shows at the Los Angeles Arboretum (Baldwin Park) in the 1960s (maybe beyond that). In those days, California Cactus and Succulent Clubs used to put on extensive (mostly) native plant displays that were judged as part of the show. I don't think there was a provision in the budget to provide security for the show plants in the Arboretum at night back then so, by mutual agreement, Club Presidents were designated "Night Guards" (stationed on the outdoor patio area). I was President of the Mojave Desert Cactus & Succulent Club (Victorville/Apple Valley/Lucerne Valley/Barstow) in 1964 and my name was first out of the hat that year! It wasn't bad duty really -- the July nights were pleasantly warm and clear and the organizers set up tables, chairs, chaise lounges and provided copious supplies of lemonade, sandwiches, cookies and other snacks. My family (my wife, two daughters and me) actually enjoyed the night except for the Pea fowl! After all the show people departed, our "guard station" soon resembled a scene from Alfred Hitchcock's "The birds"! They gathered in great numbers, perched in trees, running around on the ground begging food and constantly uttering their strident call that sounded to us like "HALP". To our mind it was the Peahens that were the loudest although I must say that some Peacocks did regale us with occasional magnificent displays. I think nature designed Peacocks to offer the most magnificent body display of all creatures but compensated for that by endowing both sexes with the loudest and most strident squawks!

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Mar 23, 2016 8:42 PM CST
Name: Annette
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Hello everyone, I haven't posted in this forum in a while. I wanted to share my Lowes find today.

Trichocereus with 9 buds.

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Mar 23, 2016 8:45 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Very pretty! Love when cacti gets ready for a show! Lovey dubby
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Mar 23, 2016 9:03 PM CST
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Name: vee
Pasadena, CA (Zone 10a)
Tarev, thank you for the recommendations! I have visited The Getty but it was before I took on such an appreciation & love for plants. I look forward to going back.
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Mar 23, 2016 9:03 PM CST
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Name: vee
Pasadena, CA (Zone 10a)
James, thanks for sharing! I can just picture all those peacocks (along with all their ..glory)! hehe

jamesicus said:
I think nature designed Peacocks to offer the most magnificent body display of all creatures but compensated for that by endowing both sexes with the loudest and most strident squawks!


I agree. You can't have it all! ha
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Mar 23, 2016 9:04 PM CST
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Name: vee
Pasadena, CA (Zone 10a)
Annette! Love your recent find! Hurray! Hurray!
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Can you please add those pictures to the database? They are great!! Thumbs up
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Mar 24, 2016 6:11 PM CST
Name: Annette
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I watered the new plant when I got it yesterday, here's my reward this morning.

Hetty, I will add it to the database as requested.

Trichocereus grandiflorus (Torch Cactus)
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Mar 24, 2016 7:55 PM CST
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As I understand it, the name Trichocereus grandiflorus is a synonym for Echinopsis huascha. There are named and unnamed hybrids under that designation but I'm guessing "Grandiflorus" is not one of them, instead the species name dating from back when this plant was called T. grandiflorus. Does that make sense? The word "grandiflorus" should indicate a species, not a variety, unless someone got a little too clever. The big box stores are putting out these hybrids from Altman's under the Trichocereus grandiflorus name and you never know what the flower will look like until it blooms. Your plant makes very pretty flowers.

I would advise moving these images to the generic E. huascha listing unless you know that variety name to be correct. Maybe someone else with more cactus knowledge than myself can confirm.
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Mar 24, 2016 8:23 PM CST
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OK, so the whole Trichocereus/Echinopsis/Lobivia nomenclature is currently a huge mess because about a decade or so back they decided it was good to merge them all into one large genus: the genus Echinopsis. At that time AFAIK Trichocereus grandiflorus became Echinopsis huascha. Then a few years back some more taxonomic/genetic research showed that if they wanted to do this they effectively should make most of the South American cacti part of that genus, which people felt was too much, so it was decided to split Echinopsis up again, with another round of renaming the different plants, and of course some additional reorganizing. The Catalog of Life, which this site follows is not up to date on that.

However, this is one of the few original Trichocereus plants that actually had red flowers in nature, whereas most Trichocereus species have white flowers. Because of its flower color and general size it became a much hybridized plant, most of which are sold under the name 'Trichocereus grandiflorus', this is mainly a trick by Altman's to sell the plants, because everyone would agree that the name Trichocereus grandiflorus sounds much better than Echinopsis huascha. 'Grandiflorus' is not a cultivar name, so Baja is correct, this plant should not be under the entry for Echinopsis huascha, but should be under the entry Echinopsis sp. - the generic Echinopsis entry, or if there is a Echinopsis huascha hybrid entry, it should be under that.

Once again: grandiflorus is an old defunct species name, not a cultivar name. A true Echinopsis huascha (aka Trichocereus grandiflorus, see below) would afaik have red flowers, not white ones.
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Mar 24, 2016 9:18 PM CST
Name: Annette
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Thanks for the info. I'm not aware of how to to move this plant in the database to the Echinopsis sp. I added the plant based on the name on the tag, my apologies if it located in the wrong place.

Anyone have instructions abou how to move a plant in the database?
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Mar 24, 2016 10:28 PM CST
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If you go to the page for your image, say this one (and click through to "more photo details" if you're just getting the popup)



You will see a link near the bottom which says

Move this image to another plant

Click there. Then you will be prompted for the name of the plant you want to move it to. Pending approval (usually quickly) the change will be put into effect.

A second decision will need to be made regarding whether or not this variety called "Grandiflorus" exists, or is instead some kind of misnomer. Being no kind of expert I can only guess, but it sounds a little fishy. If the named plant should be deleted, that can also be done by a similar link ("delete this plant") near the bottom of the plant's page. Also pending admin approval.

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