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Oct 19, 2011 8:09 PM CST
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
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Dis-bud....................you going to use paste or an electric dehorner? I used electric........could do them really young. Horn has to be through the skin, but if done correctly you won't have scurs.
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Oct 20, 2011 6:26 AM CST
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We have an electric one, the Rhinehart X50. Her horns aren't through the skin yet but I'm watching closely for it.
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Oct 20, 2011 7:58 AM CST
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
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I don't know the "number" of mine............I can use it for bigger calves. What would be ideal would be the Buddex..........can do when only a few days old.

Electric is much better than the Barnes or a saw..........much less stress, no worry about infections/flies, and they don't really go off feed.
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Oct 20, 2011 8:15 AM CST
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I agree
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Jan 27, 2012 12:15 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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Elsie is booteefull! Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
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Jan 27, 2012 1:51 PM CST
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Here's Elsie today. She's a lot redder!

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We disbudded her several months ago. You can't even tell where it happened and I'm so relieved that I didn't skip this step!

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Jan 27, 2012 1:55 PM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
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Perpetually happy!
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How come the itty bitty pen?
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Jan 27, 2012 2:02 PM CST
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It's easy to move around. She spends most of her day out of the pen on a line grazing to her hearts content. We gets put up in the pen at night.
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Jan 27, 2012 2:05 PM CST
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AnnaZ said:If the calf is wild now, may I be the first to inform you that it will NOT get any better, unless this beast is the exception


I wanted to update you on this. Our 13 year old daughter is responsible for the calf, and she leads her by the halter wherever they go. This calf is now as tame and domesticated as you could imagine. Thumbs up
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Jan 27, 2012 2:13 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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She's still as pretty as can be. Love her nose. Lovey dubby
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Jan 27, 2012 7:17 PM CST
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
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That's good to hear. Glad that part worked out for you.
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Jan 28, 2012 8:14 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
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We decided to halter break some of our heifers - with mixed success. In most cases we didn't stick with it long enough and the effect was temporary.
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Jan 28, 2012 8:19 AM CST
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
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Porkpal, if you do it young and they learn it, they *usually* remember it in later life. Key word there being *usually*. Green Grin!
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Jan 28, 2012 9:06 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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I must have unusual heifers...
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Jan 28, 2012 9:43 AM CST
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
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Or they may have been incorrigible students..................
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Jan 28, 2012 11:27 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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The ones with a lot of Brahma blood - too much "ear" - can definitely be incorrigible!
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Sep 4, 2012 7:13 AM CST
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Daisy calved again this morning! I haven't gotten near them yet so I don't know if it's a "he or a she" but it's a beautiful calf with beautiful markings.

We sold the bull last spring after he bred Daisy this last time, so this will be the last calf we get from him. I'd love it if this, too, was a heifer.

I'll post pics later in the day.
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Sep 4, 2012 7:44 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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The new calf looks exactly like the bull did when he was a day old. We still haven't determined the sex yet but I didn't see anything hanging down when the calf was facing away from me so that's encouraging!!

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Check out that udder on Daisy. We'll be milking soon, making butter, ghee, cheese, etc again! Hurray!
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Sep 4, 2012 7:48 AM CST

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Happy new calf!!
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Sep 4, 2012 7:53 AM CST
Name: Tom
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Dave, is this 24 hours after calving? If so it looks like Daisy may have retained some of the placenta. You don't want to let that go too long or she could get an infection. Have you located the placenta to check if it has been discarged in full or in part. I don't know if they use Oxytosen on cattle or not, but with the horses we can give them a shot of it and they will usually push it out.
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