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May 31, 2017 9:27 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
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I just came across a post on Facebook by Marco show 'Mitchell's Gold'. Dead ringer for 'Michael's Golden'.
https://www.facebook.com/profi...
http://sempervivum-liste.de/Se...
http://www.semperhorst.de/dieh...

And I forgot about this thread from 2011. I think Gramps has passed away.
The thread "Looking for Sempervivum "Michell's Gold"" in Sempervivum forum

And here is 'Michael's Golden' Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Mitchell's Gold')

Could this be why we could never find information on 'Michael's Golden'? It some how had a name change?
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May 31, 2017 10:50 AM CST
Name: Julia
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May 31, 2017 12:28 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Kind of wonder why it got changed to "Michael's" when the person who introduced it isn't even named Michael but is named Mitchell. Make me think the correct name should be Mitchell... but who knows?
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May 31, 2017 2:00 PM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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It is interesting..... Makes me think the name got mixed up somewhere along the line too.
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May 31, 2017 3:29 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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I agree with Bev if it is the same semp we should give it its proper name Mitchell's Golden... I tip my hat to you.
Thanks Lynn for finding this, I wasn't aware there was a problem Whistling
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May 31, 2017 4:26 PM CST
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I think I need to try and get one of them from Europe and grow it along side the one I have.
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May 31, 2017 7:11 PM CST
Name: Dirt
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oh wow, I'm sorry I missed Gramps!

Good idea Lynn, it would be worthwhile to see if they are the same or not Thumbs up

Meanwhile, where did you all get your Michael's?
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May 31, 2017 7:17 PM CST
Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
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I didn't know there was an issue with it either Confused Horsts site shows Mitchell's Gold but no pics. Shrug!
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May 31, 2017 9:51 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Dirt, I got it from North Hills Nursery years ago.
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Jun 23, 2017 1:47 PM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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Did we ever come to any conclusion on this name? Do you think we all really have 'Mitchell's Gold'?
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Jun 23, 2017 2:36 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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After going over all the site references for cultivars, and sites with photos, I believe 'Michael's Golden' is the same semp as 'Mitchell's Gold'.

@JungleShadows what are your thoughts on this? The seasonal coloring matches from one site to our database photos. Type/form and size also match.
I am thinking we should change the database name to 'Mitchell's Gold' and add 'Also sold as'.
Every ones thought on this would be helpful.

Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Mitchell's Gold')
http://www.sempervivum.info/li...
http://sempervivum-liste.de/Se...
http://translate.google.com/tr...
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Jun 24, 2017 9:33 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
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I agree with you Lynn, and also think we should change the name in the database and add "also sold as".
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Jun 24, 2017 4:18 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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It is done. Thank you Chris. Makes even more sense when you see who one of the parents are.
Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum tectorum var. tectorum (boissieri))
Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Mitchell's Gold')
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Jun 25, 2017 1:00 AM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Good idea! Thanks both of you! I tip my hat to you.
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