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Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: Lime Frost

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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Apr 15, 2012 8:58 AM CST

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This sempervivum sure looks a lot like a jovibarba heuffelii to me. I looked at our database and Lynn's and Sandi's both have the same growth pattern - more like a j. heuff.

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Name: Sandi
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picklepuff
Apr 15, 2012 9:22 AM CST
This was a one of the plugs that I had purchased from Mountain Crest. I have 3 plantings. I'll go out and take pics this morning.
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Apr 15, 2012 9:31 AM CST

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Sandi, I just checked my notes and I actually got that one from your last summer. I'm wondering if it had a wrong ID on it.
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Name: Sandi
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picklepuff
Apr 15, 2012 9:54 AM CST
I remember trading you one of the plugs. There is the possibility that it has been mislabeled. I looked on the internet for other pics of S. 'Lime Frost', only to find one on the North Hills Nursery website. Here are the pics of my 3 different plantings. The only one that is taking on a growth pattern of a heuff is the last one pictured that is growing in a strawberry pot. We will have to investigate this!!

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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Apr 15, 2012 10:52 AM CST

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Thanks for the pictures. The bottom 2 pictures seem to have a different form and leaf shape than the top two.
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Name: Sandi
Denver, Colorado (Zone 5b)
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picklepuff
Apr 15, 2012 11:02 AM CST
All looked alike initially before planting in different areas of my yard. The first picture is of 'Lime Frost' planted in a xeric garden with little water and extreme full sun. The second and third photo are of the same plant( one from the side and one from the top). That semp is plant in my back yard where it gets full sun and daily water. The last photo is of the "Lime Frost' planted in a strawberry pot placed under my covered deck receiving partial shade some of the day and water every third day.
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Apr 15, 2012 11:44 AM CST

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Interesting. Mine is in a hypertufa pot with about 6 hrs. of sun a day, and it's been very, very dry.
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Name: Sandi
Denver, Colorado (Zone 5b)
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picklepuff
Apr 15, 2012 3:34 PM CST
Ok....so I updated my list. I may have left off a few. Those with asterisks are available for trade. Also, I purchased 2 trays from Mountain Crest Gardens- one semp tray and 1 heuff tray for anyone interested.
Coming from MCG:
Fuzzy Wuzzy
Arach Pygmalion
Arach Rubrum
Cleveland Morgan
Compte de Congae
Firebird
Mystic
Pacific Red Rose
Somerwise
Tectorum Sunset
Tectorum Tokajense
Clara Noyes
As far as heuffs, I will not know until the tray arrives. But I will have 10 different varieties. Anyone interested tree mail me!! I'm all ears!

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twitcher
Apr 15, 2012 11:21 PM CST
Sandi, the first pic (of the four) definitely looks like a Jovibarba hirta, the second pic somewhat, but not as clear. The last two pics could be heuffelii or not.

If you want to know for sure, carefully dig it up and wash the dirt off. Heuffelii will have the rosettes emerging directly from a common root and no stolons. Examine carefully, because there are semps that have very short stolons. Dry a day or two after washing, then replant.

Definitely interested in Pacific Red Rose, once you get enough to trade.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 16, 2012 7:48 AM CST

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I will check mine when I get back home. Last time I looked at them though, they were looking like a semp. Wonder what the parentage is?
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Name: Sandi
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picklepuff
May 11, 2012 6:34 PM CST
Chris,
How's your 'Lime Frost' looking?
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 11, 2012 6:54 PM CST

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S. 'Lime Frost' can be deceiving. I thought mine also looked like a Jovi, or heuff., until now.
It grows it's offsets on very short stolens so looks like they are growing from the parent root as they enlarge. Not so.
Here it is last year, Oct 2011.
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Same plant May 11, 2012


Little chameleon isn't she. Green Grin!
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
May 12, 2012 12:54 AM CST

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Sandi, mine looks very much like Lynn's does right now, including the chicks on stolons. Strange plant, but very pretty! I'll try to get a picture this weekend too.
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Name: Sandi
Denver, Colorado (Zone 5b)
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picklepuff
May 12, 2012 6:35 AM CST
That is exactly what my plant is doing. It almost looks like a jovi roller? Shrug!
Name: Sandi
Denver, Colorado (Zone 5b)
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picklepuff
May 12, 2012 7:40 AM CST
Here is one of my plugs that hasn't started producing.

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 12, 2012 11:49 AM CST

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It would be fascinating to find out what the parentage is of this unusual semp.
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dahtzu
May 13, 2012 7:25 PM CST
This is the best reading ever. You keep posting and I'll keep reading and hopefully learning a bit.
twitcher you must know all there is to know about these little darlings. And thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Glare wish I could remember all that I read. Boy would I know Semps.
Hugs.

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twitcher
May 13, 2012 10:47 PM CST
Dahtzu, I am just a beginner, but thanks for the compliment. *Blush* I have this weird mind that is always asking questions that just have to be answered. If you say that the "sky is blue" it asks "how do you know that?" "what shade of blue" "is your blue experience the same as mine?" "Is it blue because wind blows (in the past)?" I try to pay attention when appropriate and try to remember but also do some experimentation to find things out. Sometimes it drives me nuts and sometimes it irritates people, but not much I can do about the way it works. Shrug!
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dahtzu
May 17, 2012 10:11 AM CST
At least your mind works! Sure wish I had more of what you have.
I'm reading and trying to remember what is what yet they all will always be "Hen & Chicks" to me. I totally love every picture I've seen, and you wouldn't believe how excited I get just walking in my yard and seeing the changes taking place on each.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Thumbs up LOL I need to think everyone.

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twitcher
May 17, 2012 12:53 PM CST
*Blush* *Blush*

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