Post a reply

Image
Sep 21, 2018 8:42 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
Hi , I just recently got one on sale and now contemplating where I should place it. I generally believe that plants should take case of themselves after a season and do not want to baby sitting it afterwards - minimal watering, etc. Is this clematis behaving similar to Rozanne geranium and I should leave some space around it or it should have some support to climb? Is it reasonably drought resistant or I should plant its roots in some shade with stems full sun? Planting 2-3 inches deeper than pot soil level as usual? Would love to hear from people who grow it with as much details as possible. Full sun or part shade is possible? Could it be out of place planted as a ground cover in rather drier spot in full sun with climbing rose New Dawn or slightly more moist with flower carpet rose Appleblossom ? Another spot that comes to mind is in dapple moist shade near pear tree together with geranium Rozanne or Azure Rush and heuchera.
Image
Sep 26, 2018 3:00 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
Wow! Clematis forum is dead at the moment...
Image
Sep 26, 2018 4:57 PM CST
Name: Bea
PNW (Zone 8b)
Bulbs Native Plants and Wildflowers Spiders! Solar Power Hibiscus Hydrangeas
Peonies Hummingbirder Houseplants Hostas Keeps Horses Zinnias
It's a miniature consider ground cover or hanging basket.
I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
Image
Sep 26, 2018 5:57 PM CST
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
Birds Region: Canadian Clematis Lilies Peonies Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Roses Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner: 2017
I have to say that I have quite a lot of Clematis, some over 20 years old. I have bought at least six of the "Evipo" line, and I am quite certain that they have all passed away - just as well, because the main fault with same, is that most if not all are one time bloom only, and I was never very impressed with the one-time bloom. Having said that, you have the plant thus let's have at it! Of your possible placings, I would suggest that the great climbing rose "New Dawn" is a very late bloomer and if I have learned one thing from these forums with regard to Clematis, it is to grow them intertwined with climbing roses, so they both bloom at the same time. Just an unbelievable picture with the added benefit that a Spring to Fall clematis (purple Jackmanii for example, and there are others in Group C) will use the climbing rose for a structure to climb up on, thus no need for a trellis. I have two pink "New Dawn" climbers with purple Jackmanii climbing up through them each year because they both are blooming at the same time. So bear in mind, that if mixing with other plants, that they bloom at similar times. As you mentioned, the cardinal rule is to have the roots in shade and the tops in Sun. However, some good planting spots can be lost using that rule. The key is to plant the Clematis deeper and hill it up a little but not hard compacted or new shoots won't punch through. You can plant whatever plants in front of it, to complement each other, and shade the base of the clematis at the same time. I can't find that particular Evipo 029 on the breeders site, but Bumplbea says it is a minature and not a tall climber. So if you can plant in Sun, do it! I very seldom if ever fertilize Clematis or water them either, except at the very start. I also don't ever prune Clematis until I am absolutely certain which Group it is in. If you don't know, just wait until it completes it's first year AND a half. If after carefully examining the old vines, even if you have to break a small piece off the old top looking for green pith and check every tendril JOINT on the old vine looking for new shoots next Spring, and looking for new ground shoots. If it by chance is a taller climber (doubtful) it will climb up its old vines, thus no trellising necessary. You then should be able to deduce what pruning you can do without cutting off the following years new growth, possibly. You are correct, the Clematis Forum, unfortunately, is seldom followed, but keep us posted on your decision a planted picture pic would be even better! Give her a go!! Cheers!
Image
Sep 26, 2018 10:59 PM CST
Name: Bea
PNW (Zone 8b)
Bulbs Native Plants and Wildflowers Spiders! Solar Power Hibiscus Hydrangeas
Peonies Hummingbirder Houseplants Hostas Keeps Horses Zinnias
Great tips Frank... I would luv to see some pics of your clematis and combinations !
Got Clematis.. Whistling
I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
Last edited by bumplbea Sep 26, 2018 11:03 PM Icon for preview
Image
Sep 27, 2018 8:52 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
I am not a clematis person, but enjoy a few that I have. An old picture, now it is even better and bigger.

Thumb of 2018-09-28/AlexUnder/bf5c5e


Thumb of 2018-09-28/AlexUnder/760b29
Image
Sep 28, 2018 10:25 AM CST
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
Birds Region: Canadian Clematis Lilies Peonies Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Roses Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner: 2017
Beautiful pics of "Cl.Jackmanii" or "Cl. Jackmanii Improved", Beautiful!!!! Now put one of those intertwined with a "Cl. New Dawn" rose, and it doesn't get much better!! I am struggling to remember here, but I thought it was "Newyorkrita" who posted a picture not too long ago, featuring a blue bell-shaped, upside-hanging (sorry, too much time watching US. Supreme Court Issue), Clematis, can't remember the proper name, intertwined with her roses, and IT WAS SENSATIONAL!! Buy another "Cl.New Dawn" from "Walmart" next spring, and carefully plant it in front of your "Jackmanii! Cheers!
Image
Sep 28, 2018 12:43 PM CST
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
Birds Region: Canadian Clematis Lilies Peonies Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Roses Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner: 2017
Sorry, I believe it was MargieNY who posted the exceptional picture I referred to above.
Image
Sep 28, 2018 7:44 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
I am afraid that I will be having problems with New Dawn stems surviving anything above 1-1.5 m in our northern climate. Clematis, on other hand, is easily over 3 m high.
Image
Sep 29, 2018 8:13 AM CST
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
Birds Region: Canadian Clematis Lilies Peonies Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Roses Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner: 2017
Alex, it gets down to -18C here in Nova Scotia, and my two "Cl. New Dawns" do just great, both over 8' high. I had trouble two years ago with one of them when I pruned it, to begin with too heavily, and of course pruned off over half of the following years' growth. I thought I had lost it. I will be very careful ever pruning them again, can bearly get near them anyway! LOL.
Image
Oct 1, 2018 11:55 PM CST
Name: Bea
PNW (Zone 8b)
Bulbs Native Plants and Wildflowers Spiders! Solar Power Hibiscus Hydrangeas
Peonies Hummingbirder Houseplants Hostas Keeps Horses Zinnias
Hi found a pic of my clematis blooming with the wisterias. The clematis running down center pretty similar colors. Oh pic not that good. I guess it's one of those things ya gotta see to get it! Whistling


Thumb of 2018-10-02/bumplbea/e16673
I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
Image
Oct 2, 2018 8:08 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I think it is great. Take a few more photos. Sometimes we just need the right photo to confirm what we saw.
Image
Oct 2, 2018 8:41 AM CST
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
Birds Region: Canadian Clematis Lilies Peonies Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Roses Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner: 2017
Bumplbea: That is a sensational planting of the Wisteria and Clematis together. AND it is a very good pic as well! BUT, I almost cried (real men don't cry-hah,) when I saw your beautiful Wisteria. WOW! This was to be my year with my Wisteria. I never saw so many potential blooms hanging down, and that night, we had a freak -4C frost, in the middle of June, which killed every bloom on same, and wiped out all my Japanese Plums, all Peaches, and on and on. Someone told me, that to encourage bloom, Wisteria should be pruned hard twice a year. After seeing your beautiful Wisteria, I am going out to do just that! Cheers! Oh yes, now I have to get a blue Clematis to climb up through it, like yours!!!!
Image
Oct 4, 2018 9:08 PM CST
Name: Bea
PNW (Zone 8b)
Bulbs Native Plants and Wildflowers Spiders! Solar Power Hibiscus Hydrangeas
Peonies Hummingbirder Houseplants Hostas Keeps Horses Zinnias
Frank Thank you. Chinese double wisteria and climatis Rhapsody are in the pic.
Once the horizontal stems of wisteria are trained on a horizontal frame then allow the new vertically stem growth to be where the blooms will start then trim each verticle stem back to only 4-5 buds. I trim back at fall for wisteria blooms the next spring. In general I trim many times during the growing season to keep it in check.

Sorry about the frost issue. I have lost many garden treasures from odd frosts or ice storms over the years.

With your green thumb I'm sure you'll have no problem.
And there have been many pics posted of your garden I totally think are so lovely.
I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
Last edited by bumplbea Jul 28, 2019 10:28 PM Icon for preview
Only the members of the Members group may reply to this thread.
  • Started by: AlexUnder
  • Replies: 13, views: 1,221
Member Login:

( No account? Join now! )

Today's site banner is by Zoia and is called "White Wedding"

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.