Jim, just because we don't post, it doesn't mean we don't appreciate the palms! I love seeing what others can grow. We were at Costco a few weeks after our worst freeze. They had a huge selection of palm trees....some 20 ft high. My husband suggested I pick some out to replace the ones we lost. I told him I didn't want to have my heart broken again. I'm resisting. I also lost a Kapok tree to that freeze.