It was a big deal in about 2003 or 2004. Spoken in whispers behind doors. At that time, I was immersed in the daylily culture here in FL. I met Leo at David's place. Nice old man. He and David left the house and were walking around the garden talking. That when I was told what Leo was doing. I thought he had been arrested but apparently not. Because I have zero tolerance for drugs, I didn't ask many questions, but then that wasn't necessary. I was one of the daylily people and people talk. Personally, I have no confidence of the amount of drugs cited by the newspaper--they infer that he was the only mule but that can't be true. Too risky for El Chapo. He wouldn't trust a gringo that much!!