ZenMan. Things a little slow out there? My point was I was attempting to share with other readers, two beautiful garden plants, and I chose to do so on both the "Annual" and the "Perennial" forums for greater exposure to these two plants. There are references to same being both Biennials and Perennials. Whatever their classification, the net result is one will be able to enjoy these two beautiful plants each year, without having to lift a finger to accomplish that goal. What was your point? Oh yes.