I'm pulling all my seedlings from them out Karen, it was that bad. I agree with the facebook posters all my blooms looked like they came from older plants but not even the same colors as the crosses listed. we are talking soild red flowers on seedlings with Mathew Weldon x Blue Jay Holiday listed as the parents and orangeish colored toothies for Blue Reality x Blue Jay Holiday. These are just 2 examples like I said I bought many blue eyed crosses but I got a lot of what look like Ragamuffin crosses and other things out of the 90's.