The number one VIP (very important plant) in my garden is Helicopter. It's ridiculously long bloom season (still blooming) makes it invaluable. Also very fertile both ways. Pollen was great from my new Little Raven, even set pods on Freaky People! I was impressed with Creative Design also. No matter the heat, always formed big fat pods with lotsa seeds. 24 was the most and 14 the least. Just getting started, so these CV's were great to boost a newbie's confidence.