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BigBill said:Wild plants is a misnomer. There is some confusion because of that tag. I think that the correct tag is "Native Plants". Now because they are native plants that naturally occur in out environment does not necessarily mean that they do not need our help from time to time.
I am thinking of something like cattail. A cattail that seeds itself in the proper habitat that has water year round does not need our assistance. But some cattails might seed themselves in areas where their seasonal water supply has been threatened. Typically by mans intervention. ie a new road goes through the area depriving them of the rainwater runoff that they used to get from that hillside that now has a road on top of it.
Domestic plants is another odd name that causes confusion. "Mass Produced In Order For Humans To Buy Us" might be a better name! But that is too long.

Terrestrial plants is also an odd term since oranges, perennials, annuals rhododendrons, laurels, oaks, maples, honeysuckles, daisies and Dahlias are all terrestrials growing in soil.
As has been pointed out, Aquatic is water loving or growing with wet feet or growing submerged. There is the term semi-aquatic for those that spend part of their year with a load of water around them but it dries up at some point.

Citrus was originally available as lemons, limes, oranges and grapefruits, they did not arise all from the orange. Botanists and citrus specialists through their breeding programs produce larger oranges by selective breeding or they cross an orange from North America with an orange from some where else.
You also have a few types of plants that no one has mentioned at all: Lithophytes and Epiphytes. How about Alpine?

There needs to be some adherence to similar terms. To suddenly use different terms for things is what got this post 'in trouble' right from the get go.
Just my 2 cents worth.

But the post title "Terrestrial versus Domestic" is not proper. "Native Plants" versus Commercially Massed Produced" might be better but even that is not right.

I was talking about origins of domesticated citrus.

Per Wikipedia:

"The large citrus fruit of today evolved originally from small, edible berries over millions of years. Citrus species began to diverge from a common ancestor about 15 million years ago, at about the same time that Severinia (such as the Chinese box orange) diverged from the same ancestor. About 7 million years ago, the ancestors of Citrus split into the main genus, Citrus, and the genus Poncirus (such as the trifoliate orange), which is closely enough related that it can still be hybridized with all other citrus and used as rootstock. These estimates are made using genetic mapping of plant chloroplasts.[12] A DNA study published in Nature in 2018 concludes that the genus Citrus first evolved in the foothills of the Himalayas, in the area of Assam (India), western Yunnan (China), and northern Myanmar."

But more importantly, about modern citruses and again from Wikipedia"

"The three ancestral (sometimes characterized as "original" or "fundamental") species in the genus Citrus associated with modern Citrus cultivars are the mandarin orange, pomelo, and citron. Almost all of the common commercially important citrus fruits (sweet oranges, lemons, grapefruit, limes, and so on) are hybrids involving these three species with each other, their main progenies, and other wild Citrus species within the last few thousand years".

And we created them...