Very interesting discussion.
I do not feel that I have been doing this long enough to even have an opinion on any of it yet.
But perhaps one thing that has not been touched on here is the need to plant only the number of seeds that you can handle effectively. I can see how this could get way out of control by making too many crosses and saving too much seed. eg. I had a Rita Jane with bumps that flowered in 2018. I should have selfed it to maintain the bumps I think, but i crossed it with several intensely colored ones instead. It made the biggest seed head I have ever seen and enough seed to fill 3 flats heavily planted. That would make enough plants to fill a 30 x 96 greenhouse so I only planted a small pot of that seed. It's only their second year and there are lots with good color but no bumps Yet. I now have another one with bumps which is looking like it will flower. I think maybe they only get the bumps in the flowering year? I will self it to see if I can get bumps before 3 yrs. But still not going to plant a million of them. It's not a super high priority with me as Kevin is already on it. I planted a bunch of 3 yr seedlings in 3 3/8 " pots early this spring because they looked promising. Most have in some way or other become something not worth keeping. All are nice looking plants and will go into planter pots or baskets to be sold with no name. This saves me the anguish of having to compost them. It's just me but when I see long stolons its out. They are a nursery night mare and I do not want to give it to another grower. I crossed Gold nugget with Tederheid because it was the only other thing blooming but if the offspring produce long stolons they will be gone. Each of us is going to have different preferences and goals and there is a customer out there for everything.
