Thank you. I'll give that a try. I'm intrigued by brugs and have been working with a Charles Grimaldi for a few years. (The plant was given to me by mistake. The giver thought that she was giving me a datura.) Being in zone 6, he has to be overwintered indoors. That brings more challenges. I've almost given up on him several times. But I am intrigued by them. Thanks again. I would welcome any more suggestions on how to keep these plants growing.