Lyle, I enjoyed your photos. You have had some great seedlings out of Fantastic Fringe. Guess I need to get that one. I was particularly interested in the color of Orange Grove. It seems much darker for you than it is for me. It has not thrived in my zone 6 garden. It was still three fans this year and I got it the year of introduction. How has it performed for you? Maybe it doesn't like the cold here. This spring I gave two fans to a friend and kept one. I moved my one fan to a different location, hoping that would help. When it blooms it is outstanding. I want a big clump of those blooms!!!