Ronnie I am so glad you are having luck with your plants. I have some absolutely gorgeous spiders, variegated, reverse variegated and plain green..I have a few of the curly, which I am trying to grow and propagate. They are unusual for sure. The plants on sale are so big I am going to have to do something with them if i do not sell them soon. ( If anyone wants any, they are listed on eBay and Etsy and ATP members get a $2.00 discount on each plant.)