The strongest scape I have is our first introduction, when it first bloomed I though it was a Tet because it was so thick. I have kept it in the background of most of my UF intros because of the scape. It carries this trait to the seedlings and because its a yellow self its very easy to change the bloom color in of the seedlings. The only dips I do any longer are ufs so I can't recommend any other form. "LILLIAN KATHLEEN" 2000 intro.