Thanks for the replies everybody...we're now going to move on from the nut tree since it's gone but again I thank you for your support and suggestions. I apologize if I offended anyone in my "retort". I am aware there is a bite to my bark sometimes and I think I'm still in mourning mode. Any time a tree comes down I feel a pang in my gut. A few months after the walnut incident on the side of the yard a crew from the electric company showed up and chopped down a large ash that bordered the rear of my property on the neighbor's side, this time due to the dreaded ash borer disease. I was in tree hell last year! Religious practice in the far east dictates there is no yesterday or tomorrow, just here and now. So although the future may not exist I look forward to doing over the gardens this year and a huge cash outlay to boot. My friend Dianne tells me I redux the beds EVERY year. Obviously she isn't a gardener. As any real gardener knows, we're never finished. I looked at her and smiled