Thanks Betty, those were a year old in September, I moved them from the field to the hybridizing area in October so I could use them this coming spring.
Bob has mostly dips and I work with tets. I think he is releasing one tet for 2011 so I will wait another year or so. I bet some of the big guys have already converted some of his, he does have the best patterened dips I have seen. If anyone gets the chance to see his program don't miss it, he shows a lot more stuff than his web site.
Etched Eyes was really popolar when it was released in 95 because of that eye and was a must have for a lot of pollen dabbers.