Very nice seedlings Cindy, really like the third and forth. I also lost a lot of pictures on that site, I did put a few back on. Post your seedlings here Charlie, I know nothing about Ella's.
Dip Ufs and spiders are what I started with many years ago, there were not that many tets available. I also like the dip ufs and spiders better than the tets. I started with a lot of Jack Temple stuff because he lives near us and he encouraged me to do spiders, then the AHS dropped the spider variant form and established the UF forms, which is a lot easier to produce than a true spider.
