Carol, I was going to ask if anyone wanted seeds...I have some left of this batch that I've just been sowing and I will have more from this one that's currently flowering.....t-mail your mailing address to me ( haven't kept it from before) and I'll send these to you. I'd somewhow expected them to be a problem in germinating, don't know why since the echiums throw off volunteers so readily....I did mine in the paper towel / zip baggie method and they worked well.