Hmmm...
The pinkish one with the darker bar has reddish tipped anthers and seems much more pointy than the Bees I've seen pics of. I was thinking possibly 'Carnaby' or 'Lincoln Star' --but just guessing. Low flowers are very large--8+ in--while the higher ones are smaller. It fades to kind of a silvery white with a pale pink essence of the bar in sun. I'll try to get another pic of that, tomorrow, maybe.
The bluish-purple one fades to more of a purple with a paler bar if I remember correctly, and the middle parts start yellowish and turn white. No ruffles that I recall either.
I really don't have a good guess what it could be, but it can't be Ramona. I'll also get some more pics of it too.
I have a third NOID too, sold to me as "the purple one"--
It isn't quite ready for pics yet but here is one anyway. It blooms early and all summer. And it does not have any climbing/grasping capabilities at all.
