Possible, I guess, but Louvois seems a little too "brownish" to me, IMHO. It's gonna' take LOTS of "picture looking", comparisons of height, and season, etc., to get close on this one. "reds' from this era were stating to get pretty common, and between Cayeux, and Lapham alone I can think of several possibles, and that's just two hybridizers out of scores! And while you can call it anything you want, Toni, Sherry's right...Wearing Rubies isn't even close....Arlyn