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Jun 14, 2014 10:13 AM CST
Name: Sue
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Heart2Heart said:

... interessting

should it be same as `Green Kwanso`! So if we belive in in hybridizer information ... Variegata is a cross of Green Kwanzo and Flore Pleno.


'Variegated Kwanso' was in existence long before Stout (one description dated 1784 in the Descriptive Catalog of Hemerocallis Clones 1893 -1948). He did not hybridize these triploid doubles although they were "registered" by him when the Descriptive Catalog listing was compiled. In that Catalog there is a note under 'Variegated Kwanso' that says "(see Green Kwanso and Flore Pleno)" meaning refer also to those entries in the catalog.

Subsequently, when the first Hemerocallis Check List 1893 to 1957 came out, somehow that preceding word "see" was left out so that it just said "(Green Kwanso and Flore Pleno)". When this was then transcribed to the AHS Database the person entering that data must have taken it to mean parentage, even though parentage would have been written (parent x parent) rather than (parent and parent). Another error in the AHS database is that these doubles are listed as diploid.

So the parentage was included in error. As Maurice said, these doubles cannot produce seed so couldn't be crossed together.

Because 'Variegated Kwanso' sometimes produces all green fans, Stout thought the green Kwansos may have originated vegetatively from it.

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