Bev,
Thanks for your details on the pedigree. I knew it was an arachnoideum hybrid but not the other parent.
The seedlings from it were VERY interesting. A couple are the largest cobweb types I have grown. Colors ranged from a clear green which produced bright pink stolons to some very deep reds with cobwebs. Only one lacked any cobwebbing although there were only 12 seedlings that came up from 'Kramer's Spinrad' X self. Often times the F1 arachnoideum hybrids are nearly sterile so i was lucky to obtain that many seeds. Last season I got good seed on 'Koko Flanel' and 'St. Cloud' from self pollinations. They are already producing tiny offsets from the seeds planted in March and showing some interesting colors. Can you wait until next spring to see them??
Kevin