JungleShadows said:'Packardian' will get that large most seasons; it was one of Ed Skrocki's favorites and he named it for his other passion: Packard automobiles. 'Jolly Green Giant' I've seen at 8". Several of the seedlings that I rowed out for a second look are huge too, at least 8". These are crosses of largest ones X dark purples so they are more "works in progress". I'm going to use them in crosses to try and get the best colors combined with that huge size. One can only think of the popularity of the huge Echevarias to see what semps in this size range would do to popularize them more with the general public.
Kevin
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