Thanks Geof. I've never had good luck growing them under lights, even though I tried for several years. They were too spindly, so I finally gave up on that a few years ago, and decided that I'd try wintersowing, since I can't find the plants here. I'm just worried about my zone and starting too soon. It is 42 out today. I know I have a lot of winter ahead of me, but it really doesn't get too terribly cold here for very long. It hasn't even gotten below freezing in the last few days. So, I guess I'm worried about starting them too early. I could always purchase more seeds, but I'd rather not have to do that. My problem is I can't stop at just one type of seed!