I was over at the LA today myself. I must say, they are practically giving away plants that were a hefty three figures last year. There is alot of stuff I bought in October, that is much cheaper now, and from the same sellers. I wont make that mistake next year, unless its just a must must must have. I really dont like buying so far in advance anyway, likely is I will have changed my mind three times. This year I did, A treat for a tough year. I dont regret it, but this year Ill try to have my therapy at the fabric store